I don't understand how this could be of benefit to Kane? The evidence was already "tested", and it "tested" negative for Kane's DNA below her waist. That was a home-run result for the Kane camp.
The sending of this evidence to the girl's family sends a very clear message. Someone inside the PD or test lab does not agree with the leaked test results.
That's the point.
IF the evidence is tampered with, how do you know WHEN it was tampered with?
After the Kane-cleared result? To throw doubt on that result?
Or before the Kane-cleared result in order to remove his culpability?
Calling a rape investigation a waste of time is incredibly crass.
No one has forced you to open this topic, it's very clearly labelled. If you don't want to discuss it, you don't have to.
If Kane gets off it will in fact be a waste of time. Sorry guys but I simply don't love myself a rape case like some of you seem to. I have checked in this thread daily for news and rarely is there ever just a bunch of men going back and forward about rape. I just don't see the fixation.
Actually it a Flames and Nhl related forum. If you dont don't like the thread then ignore it.
There are many threads that have nothing to do with the Flames . other teams signings, trades etc
Yes and every time I enter the Flames forum to see what's new with the Flames or the next Oilers fan to come and troll I'm greeted by the bumping of the Kane Rape thread. I don't like the topic and I hate the constant reminder. It's my opinion. If the mods don't share it fine but I feel this thread should be moved to the off topic forum.
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If Kane gets off it will in fact be a waste of time.
Do you believe this to be the case for every investigation? What an asinine opinion to hold. Especially when the only way you can come to the conclusion whether someone will "get off" is the investigation in the first place.
If Kane gets off it will in fact be a waste of time. Sorry guys but I simply don't love myself a rape case like some of you seem to. I have checked in this thread daily for news and rarely is there ever just a bunch of men going back and forward about rape. I just don't see the fixation.
this is the kind of thing that people would only say on a forum with anonymity. its never a waste of time to investigate rape. it IS wasted time in so far as a false allegation ties up resources. maybe just wording i dunno.
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Yes and every time I enter the Flames forum to see what's new with the Flames or the next Oilers fan to come and troll I'm greeted by the bumping of the Kane Rape thread. I don't like the topic and I hate the constant reminder. It's my opinion. If the mods don't share it fine but I feel this thread should be moved to the off topic forum.
Don't click the thread? This really isn't a hard concept.
I am not computer savvy enough to post youtube stuff, but maybe you could post the comments by Kane's attorney from 45 minutes after this press conference. Basically saying that if the "evidence" was tampered with after the original testing then they have been denied the right to examine the evidence. He then reiterated that Kane had nothing to do with the accused rape and now they can't confirm the evidence. As they just discussed on 960 theFan, there are 2 possible scenario's, 1 - the evidence didn't show what the accuser wanted (or someone from the lab wanted) so they send the envelope to discredit the testing by saying it was tampered with, or 2 - the evidence was tampered with before the testing (big reach on this one) and this confirms what Kane's lawyer said about them not having the legal right to confirm the testing.
This is like the worst episode of Law & Order: SVU ever:
News 4, WIVB-TVVerified account @news4buffalo9m9 minutes ago
#BreakingNews: Erie Co. Commissioner of Central Police Services says all evidence in #Kane case is accounted for in its original packaging
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Meh. I haven't really posted in this thread because I really don't care either way. Either he did it or he didn't and it's pretty obvious the accuser lacks any slam dunk evidence and this latest news makes them look desperate. The bottom line is that it's basically his word against hers and I don't believe that's enough to convict any man of a crime without supporting evidence. Kane will get out of this and hopefully the sooner the better so we can move on and focus on hockey as this whole thing is becoming a waste of time.
As far as I can tell, the only thing we know for certain is that an evidence bag that once housed the rape kit was inappropriately sent to the mother of the complainant.
That doesn't tell us anything about the integrity of the kit itself, or the impact of these developments on the case.
Typically, when dealing with evidence of this nature, you'll have a police officer or other witness testify that they obtained the exhibit in question (the rape kit in this case) from a certain location or person (the hospital or nurse/doctor), immediately transferred the exhibit into an envelope bearing unique markings, sealed that envelope, secured it somewhere safe, and transferred it to an analyst at a later time.
The analyst will then testify that they obtained the envelope bearing the distinct markings, opened it, performed their analysis, and will provide the results of that analysis.
The whole idea is to maintain continuity and integrity of the exhibit from the time of seizure to the time of analysis.
Now after the analysis has been done, the continuity/integrity of the exhibit has to be preserved so that further analysis can be done later (possibly by a defence expert). But that doesn't necessarily mean the exhibit has to be re-sealed in the same envelope in which it was received. If the envelope was inadvertently damaged, for instance, all the analyst has to do is testify that because the original envelope was damaged, they placed the exhibit in a new envelope bearing new unique markings, and returned it to the police.
The original, damaged envelope should be retained, but it should not be essential to the case or to the integrity/continuity of the exhibit itself.
So, the fact that the envelope was sent to the complainant's mother is concerning and cries out for investigation, but there's no evidence yet to suggest that the case has been irreparably compromised. That said, irregularities never work in the prosecution's favour.
Erie County (N.Y.) Commissioner of Central Police Services refuted Eoannou’s claim a short while later in a statement, calling into question the legitimacy of the bag allegedly delivered to the accuser’s mother’s house.
“All evidence related to this case that was given to Erie County Central Police Services by the Town of Hamburg Police Department is accounted for and remains in its original packaging in the possession of Erie County Central Police Services,” John A. Glascott said in a statement. “This includes the evidence in the rape kit and the packaging itself. This evidence has been analyzed and reports of that analysis sent to the appropriate agencies.”
Seems to contradict the attorney's claim that it is the verified original packaging.
