I'm morbidly curious but I've had people tell me it's pretty disturbing, so does someone want to give me an idea of what it is?
3 snapshots of the POV video the killer shot. Please do not open if you're squeamish, it's not great. In fact, I think I'll remove it from my earlier post. People can go to twitter if they want.
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3 snapshots of the POV video the killer shot. Please do not open if you're squeamish, it's not great. In fact, I think I'll remove it from my earlier post. People can go to twitter if they want.
Yikes, yeah, that's awful. And I am indeed squeamish, so thanks for the warning, I won't be looking for that.
I wish that had been the case, but I had to walk away from a co-worker today when he insisted that just everyone should have a gun and then this would stop. Because I'm sure that these two would've been able to fend off an ambush if they'd just had guns with them.
It's horrifying how these people honestly believe the "good guy with a gun" theory.
It's impossible to reason with people that are incredibly stupid.
Can you imagine the carnage in a dark movie theatre or night club, if everyone was armed, and tried to stop a shooter? By the time the 4th or 5th person pulled out their gun, nobody would know who the bad guy is.
This might've been posted already as i havent gone through this entire thread, but having this type of bullet in the market disgusts me...
Hell of a slogan, the first mass murder using these rounds will truly be the "last round he ever needed" ...but of course we know it'll never be public knowledge.
Even for the crazy USA it's amazing these are allowed.
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Excellent, this is exactly what we need to hear, and how we need Americans to start feeling. Except you're one of us now!
I think that's what frustrates us with some other American posters on CP is their responses are so representative of America's response as a whole to every tragedy and every suggestion that your country needs drastic changes.
It's always a ho hum "Well, not much you can do about it, guns are part of us, it is what it is, and quite frankly Canadians are annoying when they get all indignant and hopeful that real change could happen".
Really? I don't recall seeing anything like that here ever. Can you point out such a post or name such a member?
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Really? I don't recall seeing anything like that here ever. Can you point out such a post or name such a member?
It's funny but I think a good amount of the posts with the most staunchest defending of American gun laws come from Canadian posters here. Most of the American posters I see on here actually want some kind of gun control.
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I sometimes wonder if it might not be almost necessary to show that video from his POV, or the disturbing images from such mass shootings. Its like nothing is working to shake people to their core about the gun violence, I only saw that still screen shot of his gun and her reaction to seeing it, it lingers with me since I saw it in a way that is palpable.
Kind of like the argument made that when soldiers die the US did not allow reporters to show the coffins and return home, unlike what Canada did with its highway of heroes.
I of course understand a lot of people would be quite upset to view such videos, and can of course choose to avoid it, totally understandable.. But I wonder if by not seeing the barbarity of things like these mass murders, the horrors of war, do we then desensitize ourselves to the horror? I mainly am thinking of those in the US who rabidly argue for gun rights, I wonder if they watch a video like that does it give them pause?
I sometimes wonder if it might not be almost necessary to show that video from his POV, or the disturbing images from such mass shootings. Its like nothing is working to shake people to their core about the gun violence, I only saw that still screen shot of his gun and her reaction to seeing it, it lingers with me since I saw it in a way that is palpable.
Kind of like the argument made that when soldiers die the US did not allow reporters to show the coffins and return home, unlike what Canada did with its highway of heroes.
I of course understand a lot of people would be quite upset to view such videos, and can of course choose to avoid it, totally understandable.. But I wonder if by not seeing the barbarity of things like these mass murders, the horrors of war, do we then desensitize ourselves to the horror? I mainly am thinking of those in the US who rabidly argue for gun rights, I wonder if they watch a video like that does it give them pause?
In reference to this, I think the bottom line for many, many people is that traumatic experiences aren't real until they happen to you or someone you love.
I don't know that seeing video changes that for anybody, for sure. I would assume it would for some, but not everyone.
Look at how so many of us treat our health? We KNOW that smoking, drinking and driving, being sedentary and eating the wrong things WILL kill us. BUT....how many actually use that knowledge to avoid early death? Not as many as you would think. Why? It's not real until it happens to you.
It's a strange bit of psychology.
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Bruce Arthur has been an interesting Twitter account to view lately around this. The most powerful RT I viewed there was this one, which horrifically points out the obvious now on Gun Control:
@DPJHodges: In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.
If a democrat wins again, the growth of right wing militias will continue and gun sales will continue to sky rocket as has been happening since Obama was elected.
Yeah, and on every one of those days 3000 people in the US died from preventable causes, and I bet a whole lot of those have equally sad circumstances behind them. I have no love for guns, would never own one, and would be just fine is someone took them all away. But the fact is mass shooting are just not statistically significant and even if you eliminated all of them, you aren't really making the country any safer in any kind of measurable way.
Yeah, and on every one of those days 3000 people in the US died from preventable causes, and I bet a whole lot of those have equally sad circumstances behind them. I have no love for guns, would never own one, and would be just fine is someone took them all away. But the fact is mass shooting are just not statistically significant and even if you eliminated all of them, you aren't really making the country any safer in any kind of measurable way.
The existence of other causes of preventable death has no bearing whatsoever on the merits of reducing or eliminating this cause of preventable death. You are adding nothing to the discussion with this effort at misdirection. In fact, it belies your claimed lack of love for guns.
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