[News] CalgaryNEXT Announcement. New arena details emerge.

[Loyal and True]

I don't have a problem with this funding model as described so far.

I do have a problem with a fixed roof stadium. Canadian summer sports should be outside. BC Place absolutely sucked until they changed it. Make it retractable roof and increase the ticket tax if necessary.

Field house should be funded by city. CFL stadium is for the city, not a lot of millionaires in CFL football. Cleanup should have been done decades ago and should not be paid by Flames owners. Most of the infrastructure around crowchild should have been done with public dollars long ago.

CRL and ticket tax is funded by people and businesses that directly enjoy/benefit from the facilities.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The Ralph Klein memorial arena?

The Ed Whalen Hockey House

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by octothorp

If the city owns the building and lands, does that mean that the Flames and Stampeders will pay rent to them? Will the city get the majority of the revenue from concerts and events hosted there?

What it comes down to for me (in regards to public money being spent) is how quickly they can reach a point where this actually becomes a revenue-generator.

I would speculate that the deal would be similar to what the Flames and city have now.

CSE would manage the facilities and collect the revenue from all events. In exchange, they would pay the city a (nominal) flat annual fee and be responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the buildings.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The "missed" concert argument because of the Dome is mostly not true. It's not because of the arena, it's because artists have lots of cities they can play. Calgary is not in the top 50 metro areas in North America. Most artists only do 40-50 show legs. It's not a building thing, it's a "We will only play Edmonton or Calgary" thing. I think people are going to be very disappointed that bands will still skip Calgary with a new building.

Rush just played Calgary and....not Edmonton. Pearl Jam played Calgary 2013...not Edmonton. Bands go to Calgary and not Edmonton a decent amount if you look hard enough.

Edmonton has a thousand year old area too at the moment...you think acts will be skipping their new arena and playing in the dome? not very often, obviously there are other factors like the schedule. Also the football stadium will host larger shows too.

The Flames won't survive long term without a new arena and if the Flames left the dome would be too expensive to operate just for the odd concert

Calgary NEEDS these facilities

[polak]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Rush just played Calgary and....not Edmonton. Pearl Jam played Calgary 2013...not Edmonton. Bands go to Calgary and not Edmonton a decent amount if you look hard enough.

Those examples might have been relevant 20 years ago.

The big, popular acts with their big stage shows never choose Calgary over Edmonton.

[hockey.modern]

Mayor @Nenshi is expected to release a statement regarding #CalgaryNEXT around 3 p.m. #yyc #Flames

[Hockeyguy15]

I would be willing to bet that the "stadium" being enclosed is not just weather related but also noise related. Remember when everyone around McMahon complained about the outdoor concerts?

[Tacopuck]

Can we at least all agree that the new area should be called the "Scorch Memorial District"

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Those of us who are more cynical will interpret that as meaning they want the city to pay for the land clean up.

KK already said the 3 levels of gov and the flames would have to pitch in on that.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Every other arena outside of Edmonton is privately owned... This isn't an impossible concept.

1. No, not every other arena outside Edmonton is privately owned. Also, many of the ones that are privately owned were built primarily with public funds but given to the private owner.

2. Please learn how to use the quote function.

[dino7c]

honestly how many nice evenings for football do we get a year in Calgary? 4?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I would be willing to bet that the "stadium" being enclosed is not just weather related but also noise related. Remember when everyone around McMahon complained about the outdoor concerts?

I think it will be a major drawback if the stadium roof isn't retractable. Even when the roof is open in BC Place, it feels like a dome. I personally don't like that.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by shutout

For transit there is no reason that the city cannot have a dozen more busses doing loops through downtown whenever there is a large capacity event taking place that night. People would park downtown if they were coming in, or they would already be downtown because they work there.
Simple options available.

Or drive to the nearest train station and park for free at night....like a lot of us have been doing for 10 years now.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

I do have a problem with a fixed roof stadium. Canadian summer sports should be outside. BC Place absolutely sucked until they changed it. Make it retractable roof and increase the ticket tax if necessary.

Surprised to see this comment a couple times. Is it that big of a deal? It pretty much makes the weather a non factor. As long as they can maintain good field conditions, I really don't see the drawback. Who's going to miss -30 degree CFL playoff games?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Edmonton has a thousand year old area too at the moment...you think acts will be skipping their new arena and playing in the dome? not very often, obviously there are other factors like the schedule. Also the football stadium will host larger shows too.

The Flames won't survive long term without a new arena and if the Flames left the dome would be too expensive to operate just for the odd concert

Calgary NEEDS these facilities

Actually its directly because of the roofs as I understand. The Saddledome roof cant handle the lights/speakers required and as such gets passed over.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by dino7c

honestly how many nice evenings for football do we get a year in Calgary? 4?

Ridiculous understatement....we get atleast 5.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Surprised to see this comment a couple times. Is it that big of a deal? It pretty much makes the weather a non factor. As long as they can maintain good field conditions, I really don't see the drawback. Who's going to miss -30 degree CFL playoff games?

Not many. But on a nice evening or warm day, spectators and players alike would want the field at the very least to be uncovered.

[Hack&Lube]

The value proposition makes more sensed to me to have a fixed roof. This city spend the majority of the year under cold weather and there are all the noise problems that McMahon has.

Retractable roofs all seem to have problems that cause maintenance and cost-overrun issues in the long-term but maybe technology has gotten better. There are also alternatives these days like open-roof systems that have more simplistic and reliable mechanisms.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

wrong

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...omes-drawbacks

They don't really provide many examples besides Taylor Swift and Maroon 5. Didn't the Rolling Stones come here but not Edmonton in like 2004? Seems to me you can't get a bigger band, and they came here.

Originally Posted by polak

Those examples might have been relevant 20 years ago.

The big, popular acts with their big stage shows never choose Calgary over Edmonton.

And if Edmonton has a new arena, and Calgary has a new arena, and they can still only play one or the other....you're acting like a new arena guarantees Calgary never gets skipped again. Unless Calgary is renaming itself Toronto, it's still in line to get skipped.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I am going to ask again - did Ken King mention anything about time frame for this to be built?

Minimum 5 years.