07-31-2015, 01:40 PM
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#4681
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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I'm almost at the point where I want someone to come in here and just lay and entirely fabricated plan that they insist is real, surely the disappointment won't be worse than the dozen or so delays we've seen.
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07-31-2015, 01:45 PM
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#4682
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Muta
So?
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Because the Flames are turning into the guy that drives a rust bucket 1994 Honda Accord with half a million km on the odometer that tells his friends "bro, my next car is a BMW, it's happening very soon, you guys will love it".
It's good to have ambition, but to be hoping for that bmw for over a decade looks silly. Just go out and buy a new Accord and buy the BMW when you can get your #### together.
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07-31-2015, 01:50 PM
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#4683
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Franchise Player
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yeah... this so isn't that
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07-31-2015, 01:53 PM
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#4684
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund
sentiments like this is why I had not said anything. Believe me I understand how the optics look,However when someones career is involved you air on the side of caution.
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Michael Jordan will be the new owner of a basketball team that is coming with the arena?
KK wasn't lying when he said this project will be huge 
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07-31-2015, 01:59 PM
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#4685
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In the Sin Bin
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What i dont understand is why is it such a big secret?
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07-31-2015, 02:13 PM
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#4686
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by polak
What i dont understand is why is it such a big secret?
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Likely because all the I aren't dotted and the T's aren't crossed on important details such as, funding, taxpayer impacts, community impacts from a construction and infrastructure perspective and communication plans on these and many other fronts haven't been worked out and need to before you announce.
You are likely just itching to know about the new rink as a Flames fan and just want details. Many will hear the announcement when it comes and want details on what it means for tax payer dollars, what does it mean for their community if it's near by during construction and after. How will XYZ be handled. Not everyone is going to be excited about this project for multiple reasons and they need to be ready.
Also, ironically, you are asking why it's such a big secret, as you complain about not having details. I'm sure they've learned their lesson on making announcements on things with incomplete info. People of course then want the next level of detail right away, and get frustrated when they don't get updates or their questions can't be answered. So likely waiting until they are able to answer "most" questions before announcing.
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07-31-2015, 02:20 PM
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#4687
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Originally Posted by _Q_
Because the Flames are turning into the guy that drives a rust bucket 1994 Honda Accord with half a million km on the odometer that tells his friends "bro, my next car is a BMW, it's happening very soon, you guys will love it".
It's good to have ambition, but to be hoping for that bmw for over a decade looks silly. Just go out and buy a new Accord and buy the BMW when you can get your #### together.
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This analogy is terrible.
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07-31-2015, 02:26 PM
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#4688
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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I think I'd just like to know how many posts this thread would be with just straight, real, meaningful news on this.
100 posts maybe?
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07-31-2015, 02:28 PM
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#4689
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DJones
Source; I know a guy who knows a guy
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Originally Posted by Muta
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You've been talking to each other offline and you both don't know that you each visit CalgaryPuck.
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I think I'd just like to know how many posts this thread would be with just straight, real, meaningful news on this.
100 posts maybe?
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Less than 30.
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07-31-2015, 02:30 PM
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#4690
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Nenshi just went on holidays so I can't imagine anything happening soon without him being here. Not that I was expecting anything happening that soon.
Since everyone seems to be running away from the Winter Olympics, my guess is that there is some pitch that involves 2026 so that everything can be upgraded. If they can give them to Bejing (with no mountains) then we'd be in good shape. The facilities here seem to be in pretty decent condition still so it won't cost much more (relatively speaking) to fix them up. With all the infrastructure announcements going on it will just tie-in everything perfectly with timelines. Flames get arena/stadium with a public/private partnership, city probably gets a good fieldhouse tied in somehow. Everyone is happy except taxpayers...
It's a Friday afternoon before a long weekend and I might have had a cocktail or two so why not have a little alcohol-induced speculation.
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07-31-2015, 02:41 PM
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#4691
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by bob-loblaw
Nenshi just went on holidays so I can't imagine anything happening soon without him being here. Not that I was expecting anything happening that soon.
Since everyone seems to be running away from the Winter Olympics, my guess is that there is some pitch that involves 2026 so that everything can be upgraded. If they can give them to Bejing (with no mountains) then we'd be in good shape. The facilities here seem to be in pretty decent condition still so it won't cost much more (relatively speaking) to fix them up. With all the infrastructure announcements going on it will just tie-in everything perfectly with timelines. Flames get arena/stadium with a public/private partnership, city probably gets a good fieldhouse tied in somehow. Everyone is happy except taxpayers...
It's a Friday afternoon before a long weekend and I might have had a cocktail or two so why not have a little alcohol-induced speculation.
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Or perhaps its time for the Flames to take matters into their own hands and stage a coup!
Conroy for Mayor!
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07-31-2015, 02:55 PM
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#4692
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Isn't the catchphrase Ferly for Mayor?
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07-31-2015, 02:59 PM
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#4693
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Isn't the catchphrase Ferly for Mayor?
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Hes busy. Besides Conroy now has managerial experience.
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07-31-2015, 03:41 PM
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#4694
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I think I'd just like to know how many posts this thread would be with just straight, real, meaningful news on this.
100 posts maybe?
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Three
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07-31-2015, 04:27 PM
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#4695
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
Likely because all the I aren't dotted and the T's aren't crossed on important details such as, funding, taxpayer impacts, community impacts from a construction and infrastructure perspective and communication plans on these and many other fronts haven't been worked out and need to before you announce.
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Sorry, but you don't call it "crossing t's and dotting i's" when you don't even own the land you want to build on, and have not even released any plans/numbers for the community and stakeholders to respond to. Unless the Flames are entirely funding it themselves (highly unlikely), everything is still a pretty big hypothetical. Even if they have beautiful architectural renderings, it's still a hypothetical concept at best...you can't have final architectural drawings until the exact land and financing is known. Not having financing or land in place is not crossing T's...it's still writing an outline.
One thing to keep in mind is that the guy in charge of this project had absolutely 0 years of development experience when they started this project. Chances are good there was a massive learning-curve on Ken King's part, that's probably delayed things for quite a lot longer than it needed to be. I think the Flames did themselves a disservice by not bringing on someone with more experience to head this project.
Yes, it's a big and complicated project, but come on now...entire Summer Olympics and Big Digs have been planned and built in the time it will take the Flames to complete this thing (or to even release plans for it). And the hardest part is yet to come! At some point, I don't think its unfair to point fingers and accuse the Flames of incompetence.
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07-31-2015, 04:28 PM
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#4696
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund
sorry, out of respect for the person who told me its better to not say anything(edit) specific.
don't worry about the Firestone location its not there unless something takes a major turn.
It is very trans-formative for the city
things will be well integrated into current infrastructure.
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Current Infrastructure of roadwork?
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07-31-2015, 04:33 PM
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#4697
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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The Flames should've just hired Bunk. The man gets things done (see recent Green Line)!
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07-31-2015, 05:48 PM
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#4698
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by TX_Flame
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The Flames may or may not be building a new arena in the very near future. The announcement is imminent. That's the news and it hasn't changed in 3 years.
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07-31-2015, 07:56 PM
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#4699
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Table 5
The Flames should've just hired Bunk. The man gets things done (see recent Green Line)!
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I come with a relatively low AAV. I'd even take the league minimum.
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08-03-2015, 02:21 PM
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#4700
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Muta
Well, I can tell you that my socks will be knocked off.
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Beach volleyball?
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