Would a world war fix this f***ed up world?

[Red Slinger]

Of the issues listed in the original post most of their origins can be traced back to a war.

The first 5 you listed could arguably be traced back to the fallout from WWII. The last one can realistically be traced back to the US War of Independence.

[Muffins]

I feel like there's another solution...

[Weitz]

Damn those Saudi's for selling their oil and screwing up prices!

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I believe the US will split again in my life time.

Because of earthquake?

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Muffins

I feel like there's another solution...

Same day as my wedding anniversary. Seems fitting somehow.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Matata

The amount of resources invested into the first world wars could have conceivably solved every problem in the world, from poverty to energy to the environment. Instead we let the ruling elite convince us to murder each other by the millions and bury our countries in debt to the international banks.

The barriers that seperate us: race, religion, culture are illusions devised by the ruling classes to convince us to hate each other, when in reality, all that the common folk in world desire is comfort, peace and stability. It is the money masters who are the true enemy of mankind, it is they who benefit from the wars, not us, never us.

You got my attention!

Tell me more about the ruling elite/ruling classes/money masters. Who are these folks?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Because of earthquake?

Yup!

Yellowstone will blow and the North American Plate will crack right in half from Seattle to Miami. Because, science!

[Ozy_Flame]

World War I was a big reason why World War II happened. Germany's reparation payments, feeling slighted, racist and fascist undertones that brewed over from Jewish ownership of what Hitler saw as property of "real" Germans, then declaring a policy of lebensraum, it was all adding up. Add to that the feelings of Italy in North Africa, Japan's East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, and the Commonwealth being called on to aid, and it was ripe conditions - especially for the US, the midst of the Great Depression.

World War III? Sounds like there are grievances that happened from the fallout of World War II that would be reason for a third one to start.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by T@T

- ISIS in the middle east
- Russia trying to take Ukraine and maybe more
- Saudi's screwing up oil prices
- Euro country's on the brink of bankruptcy
- Iran trying to build a bomb (to end Israel)
- mass shootings in the USA

First of all

"We didn't start the fire
It was always burning as the world keeps turning"

And no, that's really dumb and I'll tell you why.

If you look at WW2, The weapons weren't accurate, the platforms for transportation weren't fast, Sensor technology was primitive.

Today with really accurate high yield artillery and Bombing. With faster war capabilities, with better trained troops, this would be a blood bath of monumental proportions that would make WW2 look like a fist fight in a barn.

If it was the West versus the East, it would rapidly grind into a high tech stalemate with the only way to break that stalemate would be the usage of battle field nuclear weapons to blow holes in enemy formations.

Plus generals and strategists have been paying attention to the insurgency strategies, every battle would break down into block by block city fighting.

[RougeUnderoos]

I live a pretty good life, but I've recently put on a few pounds.

Should I contract AIDS to get rid of the weight?

[Matata]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

You got my attention!

Tell me more about the ruling elite/ruling classes/money masters. Who are these folks?

They've been hard to follow over the last 100 years or so, as they've gotten extremely good at hiding their tracks and fracturing their power bases, owning all the major media outlets helps a lot too. It's hard to say exactly who or what they have been doing over this time, and it's easy to fall into insane conspiracy theories when trying to figure out what they've been up to lately.

The best start would be to educate yourself about the Rothschild family during the 1800s, they were unquestionably the wealthiest family in the world during this time (wealthier than the European Monarchs) and made no effort to hide their power and influence. They were the first to learn that the best way to make money was finance both sides of a war, this allowed them to influence who won the war and governments could be relied upon to tax their people in order to pay their war debts.

They laid the foundations for the financial institutions that still dominate the world and essentially cast the mold for the modern day money masters.

"Give me control of a nation's purse strings, and I care not a wit who makes it's laws." - Mayer Rothschild, he said this at a time where he owned nearly all of Britain's debt.

"No Kings could afford this! It could only belong to a Rothschild" — Wilhelm I, the Emperor of Germany, on visiting Ferrières (The Rothschild mansion outside Paris).

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by T@T

Talking to a retired military guy today he thinks it'll take a world war to reset society and sees no other way, when you look at it there seems to be nothing positive on a world scale happening.

This is an apt example of the saying, "To a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

I am not sure what the other conflicts in the Middle East, that several countries participated in, have evidenced to make one think that war on a larger scale would go from being a useless exercise in futility to magical panacea.

[CaptainCrunch]

Oh please I'm all ears of the whole Rothschild conspiracy theories.

How do you explain their actions after the Prussian Franco wars, where they prevented further wars.

Or that Hitler who was suppossed to be their best buddy in the whole world according to conspiracy actually seized their holdings?

Please tell us how they own the US, the UN, the world bank and the IMF and how they're the shadow world rulers.

Also weren't the Rothchild's majority investments in government bonds, which really means that War is bad for their portfolio.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

World War I was a big reason why World War II happened. Germany's reparation payments, feeling slighted, racist and fascist undertones that brewed over from Jewish ownership of what Hitler saw as property of "real" Germans, then declaring a policy of lebensraum, it was all adding up. Add to that the feelings of Italy in North Africa, Japan's East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, and the Commonwealth being called on to aid, and it was ripe conditions - especially for the US, the midst of the Great Depression.

World War III? Sounds like there are grievances that happened from the fallout of World War II that would be reason for a third one to start.

You don't even need to stop at WW1. The conflicts that later became known as WW1 can be traced back hundreds of years. Things like the Ottoman invasions of the Balkans and Russian expansion played big roles. Heck, if you get right down to it, the schism of the Roman Empire has had lasting effects that played into WW1 and WW2 (I blame the Vandals!!).

British and French colonialism in the Middle East, Asia, Africa and the Americas also directly led to a rise if imperialism in Germany, Italy, Russia and Japan. Everything for hundreds of years has been an evolution of tit-for-tat conflicts. Where and how it started is completely arbitrary, as is the notion of a "world war". Many parts of the world don't even call the conflicts between 1914 and 1918 or 1938 and 1945 "world wars". They just look at them as a continuation and escalation of ongoing conflicts.

[Muta]

Once alien disclosure is announced, it will be a step in the right direction to righting this ship and bringing self-awareness to thr masses.


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[Matata]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Oh please I'm all ears of the whole Rothschild conspiracy theories.

How do you explain their actions after the Prussian Franco wars, where they prevented further wars.

Or that Hitler who was suppossed to be their best buddy in the whole world according to conspiracy actually seized their holdings?

Please tell us how they own the US, the UN, the world bank and the IMF and how they're the shadow world rulers.

I specifically said to avoid the conspiracy stuff. The benefit to studying their behavior in the 1800s (again, the 1800s) is to better understand the character of the modern ruling elite and financial institutions. I do not presume to understand everything they've done in the past and I have no clue how much influence they have in the modern world.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

You don't even need to stop at WW1. The conflicts that later became know as WW1 can be traced back hundreds of years. Things like the Ottoman invasions of the Balkans and Russian expansion played big roles. Heck, if you get right down to it, the schism of the Roman Empire has had lasting effects that played into WW1 and WW2. British and French colonialism in the Middle East, Asia, Africa and the Americas also directly led to a rise if imperialism in Germany, Italy, Russia and Japan. Everything for hundreds of years has been an evolution of tit-for-tat conflicts. Where and how it started is completely arbitrary, as is the notion of a "world war". Many parts of the world don't even call the conflicts between 1914 and 1918 or 1938 and 1945 "world wars". They just look at them as a continuation and escalation of ongoing conflicts.

Its funny because most of the leadership in Europe especially among the monarchies were all inter related. The wars of the 1800's were as close to those family feuds as it gets.

War was considered a top ranked diplomatic tool up until the start of WW2, which I would argue was the first real war where there was almost an unwillingness to fight it. Up until then, war was seen as glorious.

We had the continuation of gun boat diplomacy.

We had the naval races leading up to WW1 which increased tensions and the concept of colonization vis a violence.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its funny because most of the leadership in Europe especially among the monarchies were all inter related. The wars of the 1800's were as close to those family feuds as it gets.

War was considered a top ranked diplomatic tool up until the start of WW2, which I would argue was the first real war where there was almost an unwillingness to fight it. Up until then, war was seen as glorious.

We had the continuation of gun boat diplomacy.

We had the naval races leading up to WW1 which increased tensions and the concept of colonization vis a violence.

Which is funny when you consider it was one of the very few wars in history that actually needed to be fought. It's weird how countries are hesitant to get involved in conflicts that include horrific human rights violations and global domination aspirations when it's difficult to see where they may profit at the end of it all.

[northcrunk]

IMO the only thing that would unite humanity is making contact or being invaded by extraterrestrials.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

IMO the only thing that would unite humanity is making contact or being invaded by extraterrestrials.

Not Jesus?