2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[DJones]

Thorton, Seguin, Kovalchuk. They're not quite at the level of Malkin but they we're given away for seemingly peanuts. We got nothing for Iginla.

Can't think of any trades where a star player was traded and the other team came close to "winning'

[FLAMESRULE]

Not sure if this has been posted...Lucic for Wotherspoon and Poirier.

http://national.suntimes.com/nationa...c-trade-rumors

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Not sure if this has been posted...Lucic for Wotherspoon and Poirier.

http://national.suntimes.com/nationa...c-trade-rumors

I'm sure Treliving called and asked... but for that, pass. I really like both their upside.

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I'm sure Treliving called and asked... but for that, pass. I really like both their upside.

I agree. Poirier is a burner and Wotherspoon is our best D prospect. For a 1 year rental of slow Lucic I'd pass as well.

[AC]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Not sure if this has been posted...Lucic for Wotherspoon and Poirier.

http://national.suntimes.com/nationa...c-trade-rumors

Isn't that specifically what Scott Cullen threw out in his hypothetical Flames plan? AKA all BS.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

I agree. Poirier is a burner and Wotherspoon is our best D prospect. For a 1 year rental of slow Lucic I'd pass as well.

Same. One year rental and over paid at that.

Poirier is part of this team's future and has been developing nicely for us. I would be choked if we traded him for a "win now" kind of move when this team is still rebuilding.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by T@T

If Malkin is traded if won't be for two 31 year olds and a 28 year old who does jack come playoff time.

Malkin is 28 and one of the best players in the league. you want him think two top young roster players and a 1st round pick...at least.

From Calgary it would probably take Monahan, Brodie and a 1st

Why is Putt trading Malkin for futures? Your Calgary trade is absolutely laughable like one of the worst I have ever seen. Malkin has injury history, a $9M salary and was drafted 11 years ago so should be approaching 29-30 pretty soon. You suggest a 20 year old 30 goal, big body first line center, a 25 year old #2 40pt Dman and the 15th pick in a deep draft? Ludicrous

I think Pitt wants to continue to try and win now and suggested a deal that replaces Malkin with a more defensive minded big body C, a winger with nice hands and plays tough, and a big body Dman.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by heep223

Why?

He's going to be 34 on his next deal. Sign him for 2 years? So he's 36 and/or gone when the Flames become legitimate contenders?

Keep Hudler instead. Who will probably cost the same, was more productive, is younger, a known commodity, great with the young guys and has chemistry with Johnny and Monny.

Don't need or want Sharp.

We could sure use Sharps aggressiveness, forecheck, and of course his shot in the top 6. He would be a perfect fit for this team IMO.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

We could sure use Sharps aggressiveness, forecheck, and of course his shot in the top 6. He would be a perfect fit for this team IMO.

Ok I hear that and I agree. But he doesn't fit into the long term plans which is way more important.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I'd like to see us go after Lehtonen. He has his inconsistencies, but I blame a whole lot of that on Dallas' horrible defense.

A Lehtonen/Ortio duo would be a good tandem.

Lehtonen is fantastic, I would love this.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ok I hear that and I agree. But he doesn't fit into the long term plans which is way more important.

Yah but he's signed for only 2 more years. As long as we don't spend too much acquiring him (assets) it really inst a huge risk is it? If at the end of his contract his age is really beginning to show, we dump him at the deadline or let him walk as a free agent. And in the mean time he takes a roster spot allowing Poirier or this years 15th overall (if we get a C/RW) the proper time to develop.

I think Sharp would be a great player to add if we can do it without majorly jeopardizing our future.

Klimchuk + Raymond for Sharp or something.

[northcrunk]

Can we just stop with Sharp? The guy is over the hill and a noted cancer.

Seriously WTF:

"Klimchuk + Raymond for Sharp or something"

[heep223]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Yah but he's signed for only 2 more years. As long as we don't spend too much acquiring him (assets) it really inst a huge risk is it? If at the end of his contract his age is really beginning to show, we dump him at the deadline or let him walk as a free agent. And in the mean time he takes a roster spot allowing Poirier or this years 15th overall (if we get a C/RW) the proper time to develop.



I think Sharp would be a great player to add if we can do it without majorly jeopardizing our future.



Klimchuk + Raymond for Sharp or something.

What's the point? I'd rather see how Klimchuk turns out.

Your scenario is "giving Poirier time to develop" but you could easily look at it the other way, that having an older established player could take up a valuable roster spot for two years that would otherwise have been helpful for a young player. We already have too many roster players and many young players pushing for spots.

Listen I get what you're saying and I like Sharp but we're still in "picks and prospects" accumulation mode. We shouldn't be giving them away for players well into their 30s, who will probably walk as UFAs in 2 years.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Can we just stop with Sharp? The guy is over the hill and a noted cancer.

Seriously WTF:

"Klimchuk + Raymond for Sharp or something"

Not on the Sharp wagon at all but that would be a fantastic trade haha.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by heep223

What's the point? I'd rather see how Klimchuk turns out.

Your scenario is "giving Poirier time to develop" but you could easily look at it the other way, that having an older established player could take up a valuable roster spot for two years that would otherwise have been helpful for a young player. We already have too many roster players and many young players pushing for spots.

Listen I get what you're saying and I like Sharp but we're still in "picks and prospects" accumulation mode. We shouldn't be giving them away for players well into their 30s, who will probably walk as UFAs in 2 years.

If Poirier earns it, he'll bump Sharp down to the third line. I just think it would be good to have a little more veteran depth especially a guy who has scored between 25-35 goals almost every year for the last 7-8 seasons. We have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds, i think we are accumulating a tonne of talent. Problem is, they won't be ready right now.

I think perhaps i feel were closer to contending than you believe (likely cause I'm wearing some flames coloured glasses). Which is likely why we disagree here. I also don't see Klimchuk as a major cog going forward (again just an opinion).

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ok I hear that and I agree. But he doesn't fit into the long term plans which is way more important.

I also like Sharp, but yes, he's too old for a team that's supposed to be competing in 2018-2025. That goes for Rick Nash as well.

And in regards to Lucic, I like him too, but since he's a UFA next year, I don't think he worth our top forward and defense prospects. Just a bit too much risk.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Lucic for Wotherspoon and Poirier.

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Klimchuk + Raymond for Sharp or something.

I hope Treliving is not thinking of making an deals like this. We have finally developed some good organizational depth and have some excellent young players in the pipeline. We are not in a position to be throwing that away on guys that are over-priced compared to their contribution. $6M for Lucic? $5.9M for Sharp? For that kind of money I'm looking for a 30 goal scorer. Lucic isn't that and you have to hope his physical play will make up for that. I'm hesitant to think he's worth that money any more. Sharp is at that age where his skills start to fail. Was this season an aberration, or was it the beginning of a downward trend? Do you throw away a good prospect to find out? I hope Treliving says no and continues down the road with our own prospects and builds that depth you need to be a top team.

[Flash Walken]

I'd be inclined to pay Lucic 5.5 or so per year just for the benefit of not having to try to find a guy like him in the future.

Just imagine what having Lucic in Calgary's top 6 does for a player like Monahan, Hudler, Bennett or Gaudreau?

I mean, it's an overpayment if he's not a 25 goal guy, but I think it's an overpayment you seriously look at making.

Not sure what a trade would involve, but guys like Lucic don't grow on trees.

Also, he's a real prick on the ice. Not many of those guys on the Calgary roster.

[dammage79]

Didn't Ferland show he can be the Flames' Lucic during the playoffs? I'd rather go with Ferland and roll the dice.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Didn't Ferland show he can be the Flames' Lucic during the playoffs? I'd rather go with Ferland and roll the dice.

Agreed.

There seems to be a certain segment of users here that would love to make the Flames older and slower. This isn't to be confused with another segment that thinks literally every single available or pending FA should be on this team.