05-24-2015, 08:22 AM
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#421
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
On the 3 goals in 37 seconds...I am still enraged that Kesler and Maroon didn't get O-zone penalty calls immediately prior to the Kesler and Perry scores, respectively.
Kesler was clearly guilty of holding the stick of Bryan Bickell when Bickell initially tried to pursue the puck...Then on Perry's goal, Maroon gets away with a classic "check from behind" on Hjalmarsson to force the turnover that leads to the goal.
I'll take the win, but, it amazes me, the gutless officiating that seems to consistently go the Ducks way
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I noticed it for sure in the series against the Flames (especially game 4) and i've noticed it again in this series against the Hawks.
The rules don't seem to apply to Perry especially.
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05-24-2015, 08:30 AM
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#422
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by CGY12
I noticed it for sure in the series against the Flames (especially game 4) and i've noticed it again in this series against the Hawks.
The rules don't seem to apply to Perry especially.
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Heh Heh...I guess that's why Crawford is channeling his inner Hextall...Mike Smith would have been flopping like a fish, for all the bumping in the blue paint, but, CC is forced to make Perry pay with pain instead of PIMs.
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05-24-2015, 08:55 AM
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#423
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Nice to see the Ducks finally face some adversity in these playoffs. Really hope the Hawks can take this series. Anything to stop that d-bag Kesler from getting his filthy hands on the Cup.
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05-24-2015, 09:19 AM
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#424
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Scoring Winger
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At this point in the playoffs I have very little doubt the best team is the Ducks.
I suppose the best team doesn't always win though.
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05-25-2015, 06:49 AM
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#425
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In the Sin Bin
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The problem with the officiating as it relates to Anaheim is the problem of game management. Officials don't want to be the ones who "decide the outcome of the games", and when faced with consistently dirty teams like Anaheim, their options are to either call everything, and therefore "decide" it, or call relatively little to keep things relatively even, and therefore "impartial". So instead of calling penalties as they see them, the officials try to manage the game.
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05-25-2015, 07:32 AM
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#426
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The problem with the officiating as it relates to Anaheim is the problem of game management. Officials don't want to be the ones who "decide the outcome of the games", and when faced with consistently dirty teams like Anaheim, their options are to either call everything, and therefore "decide" it, or call relatively little to keep things relatively even, and therefore "impartial". So instead of calling penalties as they see them, the officials try to manage the game.
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Resolute...my problem with this officiating philosophy is that by NOT enforcing the rules, the Refs DO "decide the outcome of the game". The unfair advantage of uncalled penalties was demonstrated on Kesler's and Perry's goals, allowing goals that shouldn't have counted, and denying deserved penalties, and only a fairly lucky (but earned) goal by Kane, even gave the team that, mostly, followed the rules (Crawford should have gotten PIMs for chopping those dirtbags that were bumping him) a chance.
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05-25-2015, 08:58 AM
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#427
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Franchise Player
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People are referring to this as the SCF... I think that is far less the case than in prior years. I could see either of the East teams beating these guys. I don't think they'll be favoured or anything, but it wouldn't surprise me. Especially Tampa.
Last year the WCF was the SCF. This year, not so much.
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05-25-2015, 10:50 AM
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#428
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Resolute...my problem with this officiating philosophy is that by NOT enforcing the rules, the Refs DO "decide the outcome of the game". The unfair advantage of uncalled penalties was demonstrated on Kesler's and Perry's goals, allowing goals that shouldn't have counted, and denying deserved penalties, and only a fairly lucky (but earned) goal by Kane, even gave the team that, mostly, followed the rules (Crawford should have gotten PIMs for chopping those dirtbags that were bumping him) a chance.
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The refs do decide the games, I 100% agree with you. Perry should get 300+ PIMs per year easy if his play in the playoffs is any indication of how he plays all the time.
Honestly I'd prefer a hard lined stance, call everything every time like in 2005/06 when PP's were like 5.8 per game or whatever it was. Do it in the playoffs too, keep the players honest and call the game by the rulebook regardless of the situation. The players would adapt eventually as the worst offenders would be costing their teams wins on a consistent basis. Too bad the NHL would never do it though because they're more concerned with fast paced games than they are the integrity of the sport. I think 2006 was unique because they needed to re-brand the game after the lockout, now they're content to sit back and count their money rather than potentially mess with a 'good thing'.
I've watched a lot of hockey over the years and IMO the officiating has never been worse than it is right now. They literally pick a handful of infractions to call each game to call, regardless of severity, and let tons of other stuff go if the 'quota' has been reached or one team has many more penalties than the other. Another poster said it best in another thread. You might as well break the rules consistently because they're only going to call you 2-4 times per game regardless of how many times you actually break the rules. Better to get called 4 times on 30 infractions than 2 on 10. Those 18 extra liberties taken will likely win you the game even though you took 2 more penalties.
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05-25-2015, 10:56 AM
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#429
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
People are referring to this as the SCF... I think that is far less the case than in prior years. I could see either of the East teams beating these guys. I don't think they'll be favoured or anything, but it wouldn't surprise me. Especially Tampa.
Last year the WCF was the SCF. This year, not so much.
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How so? It was the Rangers from the east last year and could be again this year and they certainly don't look stronger than last year.
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05-25-2015, 11:19 AM
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#430
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Lifetime Suspension
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If Perry got called fairly for all his (goalie) interference, embellishment, and stick fouls, I honestly don't think Anaheim is the better team. It would greatly slow down the top lines cycle game, and probably give chicago 3 more PP's a game.
I desperately want the ducks to lose due to their dirtbag play.
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05-25-2015, 11:29 AM
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#431
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Had an idea!
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Pretty interesting argument to make that if Perry wouldn't get away with the part of his game that gives him the unfair advantage the Ducks probably wouldn't be even as remotely as successful as they are much less the better team in this series.
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05-25-2015, 07:26 PM
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#433
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Yikes, 2-0 Ducks already.
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05-25-2015, 07:29 PM
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#434
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Sekac blatantly runs over Crawford, really not sure how they don't call that goaltender interference.
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05-25-2015, 07:30 PM
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#435
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Incredibly blatant goalie interference...and no call. The refs just allowed Sekac to bowl over Crawford...wtf!
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05-25-2015, 07:32 PM
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#436
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Crawford gave a bit of a head snap as well, so maybe the ref felt they cancelled each other out or something.
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05-25-2015, 07:36 PM
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#437
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Franchise Player
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The Ducks are flying high and taking some cheap shots on Crawford.
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05-25-2015, 07:36 PM
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#438
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Just tuned in. Ducks better early or lucky?
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05-25-2015, 07:41 PM
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#439
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Shots are 7-0 Anaheim with 7 minutes left.
Terribad.
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05-25-2015, 07:42 PM
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#440
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Just tuned in. Ducks better early or lucky?
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Just Ducks being the Ducks.
Creating traffic in front, physically dominating
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