2015 Blue Jays Regular Season Thread - Page 18 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

flames_fan_down_under · 05-16-2015, 07:22 PM

Ugly bullpen meltdown. Francis-Hendricks are a double headed monster of mediocrity.

Tyler · 05-16-2015, 07:23 PM

So glad I didn't make the trip down to HOU to watch these guys.

GirlySports · 05-16-2015, 07:39 PM

Great.. Travis is hurt

Tyler · 05-16-2015, 08:19 PM

Edwin with the parrot, Donaldson flies out. Game over. Sigh.

KelVarnsen · 05-16-2015, 08:29 PM

Leave Gibbons and AA in Houston.

Tyler · 05-17-2015, 09:09 AM

Loved reading this. This is what the team needs more of:

Quote:

"This isn't the try league, it's the get it done league."

http://t.co/GT2eG4xy4z

GirlySports · 05-17-2015, 12:05 PM

Yeah Donaldson cant believe what he's seeing in the clubhouse compared to what he grew up with in Oakland.

flames_fan_down_under · 05-17-2015, 12:32 PM

A lot of injuries mounting for the Jays now. Travis, Bautista, Navarro, Saunders, Reyes, and of course Stroman. Why can't Thole ever be injured?

Tyler · 05-17-2015, 01:49 PM

I hate seeing old Blue Jays hit homeruns against us.

Colby's still got a beautiful cut when he connects.

Tyler · 05-17-2015, 02:02 PM

0-9 with runners in scoring position. Doooohhjjeeessuuss

Antithesis · 05-17-2015, 02:03 PM

An absolutely pathetic effort with RISP today for the Jays ... by this point they've got to be around 0-10 or 0-11. Ugly.

EDIT, beaten to it by Tyler.

Tyler · 05-17-2015, 02:13 PM

Down 2. Heart of the order up. Top of the 8th.

3 up, 3 down.

That's it, whose with me?

KelVarnsen · 05-17-2015, 02:35 PM

Oy.

GirlySports · 05-17-2015, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler

Down 2. Heart of the order up. Top of the 8th.

3 up, 3 down.

That's it, whose with me?

I'm with you, too many selfish players and selfish at bats. Blue Jays haven'tmanufactured a run in years.

KootenayFlamesFan · 05-17-2015, 05:26 PM

Quote:

"I'm stating the obvious right now, we stink," said Buehrle. "We're not playing very good on every aspect. When we're pitching good, we're not hitting. When we hit and score runs, we're not doing a good job pitching, we're not holding them."

Then he issued a warning.

"We've got to turn it around quick before another fire sale and we start selling guys and trading guys out or sending guys up and down," said Buehrle. "We've got to do something in here because we have the talent in here. We're just not playing very well."

Quote:

There is an obvious, large discrepancy between the performance of the offence (the Jays lead baseball with 200 runs scored) and the pitching (4.77 staff ERA is worst in the American League, 5.24 starters' ERA is worst in the American League).

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/buehrle-spe...-loss-1.285360

GirlySports · 05-17-2015, 05:32 PM

There is one solution, The Marlin just fired their manager and they have the same record at the Jays.

Antithesis · 05-17-2015, 07:07 PM

I'm with you all that the performance of the team has been staggeringly disappointing to this point in the season, but I wonder what firing Gibbons is going to do? I mean, from what I can see, the role of a manager is to manage the bullpen and set lineups. Is there someone out there who is going to be appreciably better in those areas?

I think there's a far greater argument to be made for firing AA, but even then, he needs to be given credit for a number of things:

- Getting rid of Vernon Wells and his contract
- Signing EE and Bautista to team-friendly deals
- Strong drafting
- Not panicking due to his position obviously being on the line and cashing in the Jays' prospect depth for immediate help

Not a lot of fun to watch this team right now and I can't imagine it's any fun to play for them either. Hopefully they can turn it around soon.

Trojan97 · 05-17-2015, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I'm with you all that the performance of the team has been staggeringly disappointing to this point in the season, but I wonder what firing Gibbons is going to do? I mean, from what I can see, the role of a manager is to manage the bullpen and set lineups. Is there someone out there who is going to be appreciably better in those areas?

I think there's a far greater argument to be made for firing AA, but even then, he needs to be given credit for a number of things:

- Getting rid of Vernon Wells and his contract
- Signing EE and Bautista to team-friendly deals
- Strong drafting
- Not panicking due to his position obviously being on the line and cashing in the Jays' prospect depth for immediate help

Not a lot of fun to watch this team right now and I can't imagine it's any fun to play for them either. Hopefully they can turn it around soon.

Ownership has lied. Period.

AA has done an ok job, but Rogers bluffed and repeatedly said that money would be found when it came to "putting the team over the top", well the trade deadline last year was a complete failure and the off-season this year is turning out to be the same farce. Getting Donaldson put them in a position to run out one of the best lineups in MLB and yet they decided to go into this season with a weak bullpen and rotation (especially post-Stroman).

Rogers deserves to feel the wrath and I hope the fanbase makes them feel it when this team falls out of the race due to the rotation. Sadly, I sincerely doubt they will get the message.

GirlySports · 05-17-2015, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I'm with you all that the performance of the team has been staggeringly disappointing to this point in the season, but I wonder what firing Gibbons is going to do? I mean, from what I can see, the role of a manager is to manage the bullpen and set lineups. Is there someone out there who is going to be appreciably better in those areas?

I think there's a far greater argument to be made for firing AA, but even then, he needs to be given credit for a number of things:

- Getting rid of Vernon Wells and his contract
- Signing EE and Bautista to team-friendly deals
- Strong drafting
- Not panicking due to his position obviously being on the line and cashing in the Jays' prospect depth for immediate help

Not a lot of fun to watch this team right now and I can't imagine it's any fun to play for them either. Hopefully they can turn it around soon.

It just shakes up the team. Redmond in Miami doesn't do a lot wrong either and ownership had a firesale a couple of years ago. Miami had a slightly worse record than Toronto last year with a much worse team.

The manager sets the tone of the clubhouse. Who is the manger of this team? Is it Gibbons or Bautista?

Derek Sutton · 05-17-2015, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I'm with you all that the performance of the team has been staggeringly disappointing to this point in the season, but I wonder what firing Gibbons is going to do? I mean, from what I can see, the role of a manager is to manage the bullpen and set lineups. Is there someone out there who is going to be appreciably better in those areas?

I think there's a far greater argument to be made for firing AA, but even then, he needs to be given credit for a number of things:

- Getting rid of Vernon Wells and his contract
- Signing EE and Bautista to team-friendly deals
- Strong drafting
- Not panicking due to his position obviously being on the line and cashing in the Jays' prospect depth for immediate help

Not a lot of fun to watch this team right now and I can't imagine it's any fun to play for them either. Hopefully they can turn it around soon.

The Dickey deal looks awful right now. Syndagaard(sp?) made his second start for the Mets today and he can bring it, he looks to be exactly what the Jays need right now. Losing Stroman has really hurt,but heading into the season everyone thought the bullpen would struggle and AA needed/ needs to address that. I would not be sorry to see John Farrell let go again.