Calgary Flames Draft 15th Overall in the 2015 Draft

[N26]

I also want to keep all 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.

Like others have said the scouting department has been doing well lately, It's also a deep draft.
And most importantly, I want to have a large pool of good prospects so that when we are in a position to win big we have the attractive assets to trade for those players that will put us over the top.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I am loving the quotes on Konecny. Would love him as a Flame regardless of size. He sounds like Paul Byron but with a lot more skill to his game.

[Vinny01]

Hypothetically speaking. If Hanifin slid to the 5 spot and the Flames could move up if they traded all 6 of their picks in the top 83 would you be okay if they did it?

They could arguably add the biggest piece they are missing in their prospect pool but they also don't add any other prospects in the first 3 rounds.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hypothetically speaking. If Hanifin slid to the 5 spot and the Flames could move up if they traded all 6 of their picks in the top 83 would you be okay if they did it?

They could arguably add the biggest piece they are missing in their prospect pool but they also don't add any other prospects in the first 3 rounds.

Well...yes, that may just be worth it. But really any gm that takes that trade better nail the picks he gets. You don't pass up a blue chip 1st pairing d prospect and not convert on the returns

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hypothetically speaking. If Hanifin slid to the 5 spot and the Flames could move up if they traded all 6 of their picks in the top 83 would you be okay if they did it?

They could arguably add the biggest piece they are missing in their prospect pool but they also don't add any other prospects in the first 3 rounds.

I would not be okay with it. That's 6 players for one. Hanifin is great but not worth 6 players. I get that not all 6 players will make it but you're severely decreasing the odds that at least one will make it and gambling future long term depth on just one shot.

I still contend that at 15 you take BPA which should be a forward, and load up on D with those 2nds and 3rds.

Even if you had little faith in the scouting staff and sold all your picks for just on player who seemed like a sure thing I'd still be leary in a deep draft like this. But the Flames scouting staff has been very very good the past few years. Let them do their thing.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

I think in a normal year, 15+45+52+53+75+83 would be easily enough to get #5, but it I dont think it will be this year. The top 5 this year is just too good, any GM moving that pick won't move it for a bunch of lesser picks. Picks 3-6 this year are more comparable in quality/potential to players like Hall, RNH and Yakupov (at the time) than they are the guys that would normally go 3-6.

I personally would make that trade without batting an eye as we could potentially add a prospect with a higher ceiling than even Sam Bennett. For the same reason, I can't see why the other team would do it.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hypothetically speaking. If Hanifin slid to the 5 spot and the Flames could move up if they traded all 6 of their picks in the top 83 would you be okay if they did it?

They could arguably add the biggest piece they are missing in their prospect pool but they also don't add any other prospects in the first 3 rounds.

Hanifin, no. He's no Ekblad or Doughty.
If Marner's still on the board? I'd do it right away, and then trade Hudler for a second 1st.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Hanifin, no. He's no Ekblad or Doughty.
If Marner's still on the board? I'd do it right away, and then trade Hudler for a second 1st.

How about letting Marner prove that he is NHL ready first? For all we know he is two years away.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Hanifin, no. He's no Ekblad or Doughty.
If Marner's still on the board? I'd do it right away, and then trade Hudler for a second 1st.

Isn't Marner another Gaudreau? That is not a bad thing but a small winger is not worth trading 6 picks for. I don't even know if Hanifin is worth it? With the Flames possessing 2 young centres, a game breaking winger, elite goalie prospect, a top defenseman is what I think we are missing the most.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Isn't Marner another Gaudreau? That is not a bad thing but a small winger is not worth trading 6 picks for.

In some drafts he would have gone 1st overall. You can never have enough elite game-breakers on your roster, and Marner is also a RW.

Is that worth 6 picks? Well, two of those picks are 3rd rounders, and all three 2nd rounders are late 2nd round, and then you've got a late 1st rounder. I'm not in a position to judge the talent there that's but game-breakers like McDavid, Eichel, and Marner don't grow on trees, whereas you can have 3 late picks in the top 3 round every year.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

In some drafts he would have gone 1st overall. You can never have enough elite game-breakers on your roster, and Marner is also a RW.

Considering we have a small elite game breaking winger and our number 1 D is 31 I think the Flames would be better served to do the deL to get a big body puck moving defenseman rather than another highly skilled small winger. Filling the RW is not as important as getting a partner for Brodie once TJ is in that 30 year age range

[David Struch]

What would be the worth of the following players in this draft?

Wideman late 2nd?
Stajan late 2nd?
Jones late 3rd?
Raymond late 4th?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by David Struch

What would be the worth of the following players in this draft?

Wideman late 2nd?
Stajan late 2nd?
Jones late 3rd?
Raymond late 4th?

Wideman is a player the Flames should be keeping. He can munch minutes and was a huge part of the offense.

I don't see many scenarios where we could trade the other 3 straight up for picks. Jones could have value of the Flamea take back just as much money or pick up some term. I don't see Stajan or Raymond having much value at all around the league

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Seeing what dmen went for at the deadline, if we moved Wideman for a late second I'm giving Treleving s bad review on Yelp

[oldschoolcalgary]

Trading picks is not a wise decision....surprised that people even talk about it considering the make up of the team includes a lot of kids that aren't first rounders....

You accumulate picks; you don't trade them.... I mean unless you were in the finals the year before, it's just silly imo

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Trading picks is not a wise decision....surprised that people even talk about it considering the make up of the team includes a lot of kids that aren't first rounders....

You accumulate picks; you don't trade them.... I mean unless you were in the finals the year before, it's just silly imo

That's a pretty stiff opinion you have! Quantity is better than quality?

I hold picks dear, the more the better. Yet the idea is to have more ammo to move up to get the player you want!

Sutter use to do this always, trade down and get more picks. Didn't work out very well.

I have no issues packaging picks to move up within reason. History shows us that the closer you are too the first overall pick the better the chance of that person being in the NHL. Sure you can add guys outside the first round and hope they develop, we have been lucky this way.

Would I trade all of our second round picks for a chance at a number one Dman? Absolutely! Our system is full of 3 -7 Dmen with Hickey having the only chance to be first pairing ( its early ). Too add 3 second round dmen with 3 - 4 upside makes no sense to me.

I will let the team decided what is best.

[Erick Estrada]

Every year it's the same discussion on teams trading into the top 5 and every year it never happens. I don't discount that the Flames could trade up a few spots but top 5, even top 10 picks are simply too valuable these days to teams. This isn't like the NFL where you know you can find week one starters in rounds 2 and 3. Most 2nd and 3rd round picks in the NHL never pan out. Trading out of the top 10 for 2nd round picks is poor management.

[N-E-B]

Put me in the BPA at 15 and stock up on D in the later rounds camp. If BPA at 15 is a forward you take that. I also want the Flames to keep all their picks. No one outside of McDavid and Eichel is worth what it would cost to trade up (especially if it costs 6 picks to do so), and Edmonton and Buffalo aren't trading their picks.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by David Struch

What would be the worth of the following players in this draft?

Wideman late 2nd?
Stajan late 2nd?
Jones late 3rd?
Raymond late 4th?

I would say a late first for Wideman, basically nothing (5th or later for Stajan), same for Jones (maybe a bit more), and Raymond has negative value.

I also don't think all of the picks in the first to third round would be enough to move up to get Noah Hanifin. Plus, no team would want like 10 picks in the first 3 rounds, because it would be a disaster in terms of contracts/playing time in the long term.

A fine player could probably be picked at 15th. However, it would be nice to get another elite prospect, as teams like Chicago/New York are built around large groups of star players.

[VladtheImpaler]

ReadingTHN's draft issue now. Some interesting defensemenin the bottom of the first round. Just from reading the summaries, it seems quite possible that anyone of Chabot, Roy or Larsson could turn out better than the guys at the top of the draft... So, I would not mind if we dropped down ~5 spots and picked up another good pick, or if we picked up another draft choice in the 22-28 range... Keeping in mind that I have not seen anyone play, I just have this feeling that Larsson in particular could be the gem. All 3 of those guys sound like Brodie to me... I think I would also be happy with taking Svechnikov at 15, unless by some miracle the Finnish kid drops.