What will Giordano's next contract be?

[Yoho]

He won't sign less than 7 year contract. If Flames won't sign it, he and his agent knows another team will.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

He won't sign less than 7 year contract. If Flames won't sign it, he and his agent knows another team will.

I personally let that other team take that risk than. My historical data is telling me 4 years of that deal carry way too much risk to allocate a 6 million dollar cap hit.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by bysutter

It's true, he has had a serious injury (both requiring surgery) the last 2 years that has kept him out for long periods of time. Why would you sign an aging d man that is injury prone to a huge term contract. Trade im now when his value is high......Gardiner plus a 2nd or 3rd rounder, Gio goes home to TO and our back end does not skip a beat.

Insulting and disgusting offer. The Flames could get way more than that if they moved Gio. Gardiner is okay but a bottom pairing D needing major work in his own end if he wants to be a top 4 guy.

leafs wouldn't do it but I would want to swP firsts with them plus Gardiner to even consider it. With Toronto entering a rebuild trading a 4th overall pick, and 24 year old Dman for a 15th overall pick and a 31 year old Dman does not make any sense for them.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I love Giordano, but his age and injury history is a huge concern. How many Defenceman are still high level players at the age of 35 or older? Than look at the injury history of those guys. Nik Lidstrom missed like 15 games in his career and many of those were rest day scratches.

So yeah if the contract is more than 4 years I would really start wanting to get that cap number down.

I haven't read the entire thread so this point may have been mentioned already.
Giordano was born in 1983. After his year in the KHL, he came back to the Flames for the 2008/09 season. He would have been 25/26 for that season. This isn't a player thats played 80 game seasons in the NHL since being an 18 year old. Take Ekblad for example, by the time he is 26 he will have played 8 full-time seasons in the NHL. He did have some pro games before 2008/09 but the point is that he doesn't have the wear and tear on the body that someone playing full-time in the NHL since 18 would have.

[codynw]

Why are people acting like Giordano is constantly injured? He's had a torn bicep in a freak accident and a broken foot from a blocked shot. It's not like he's got a glass knee or a history of concussions or anything.

[Alberta_Beef]

5 years @ 6.5

[bysutter]

Originally Posted by codynw

Why are people acting like Giordano is constantly injured? He's had a torn bicep in a freak accident and a broken foot from a blocked shot. It's not like he's got a glass knee or a history of concussions or anything.

Scroll up, his injury list is long and consistent.

[bysutter]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Insulting and disgusting offer. The Flames could get way more than that if they moved Gio. Gardiner is okay but a bottom pairing D needing major work in his own end if he wants to be a top 4 guy.

leafs wouldn't do it but I would want to swP firsts with them plus Gardiner to even consider it. With Toronto entering a rebuild trading a 4th overall pick, and 24 year old Dman for a 15th overall pick and a 31 year old Dman does not make any sense for them.

Yes it does, they are going to dump Dion and Kessel for whatever asap, Gio is a TO boy and might be a Norris candidate so the leafs fans will go nuts. We might have to eat a bad contract in the trade somewhere but I bet we could come out of the whole thing with Gardiner, a solid pick in 2016 and some more offence. Maybe throw a goalie into the mix....Reimer?

[calgarybornnraised]

Originally Posted by bysutter

yes it does, they are going to dump dion and kessel for whatever asap, gio is a to boy and might be a norris candidate so the leafs fans will go nuts. We might have to eat a bad contract in the trade somewhere but i bet we could come out of the whole thing with gardiner, a solid pick in 2016 and some more offence. Maybe throw a goalie into the mix....reimer?

L.O.L

No trades with Toronto. They have nothing.

[bysutter]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

L.O.L

No trades with Toronto. They have nothing.

You are right, they have nothing until they get here and into our system. I would guess that most players want out of TO so bad they would go to Edmonton given the chance.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by bysutter

Yes it does, they are going to dump Dion and Kessel for whatever asap, Gio is a TO boy and might be a Norris candidate so the leafs fans will go nuts. We might have to eat a bad contract in the trade somewhere but I bet we could come out of the whole thing with Gardiner, a solid pick in 2016 and some more offence. Maybe throw a goalie into the mix....Reimer?

If Giordano were to be traded to Toronto, the discussion would start with Morgan Rielly+2016 1st. Your 'proposal' is so off base it's not even funny, it comes off as a genuine troll job. Fact is, Toronto and Calgary are terrible trading partners, so there's no point in discussing any potential major trade between the two teams. A rebuilding team doesn't trade their captain and best player (who is one year from UFA) to another rebuilding team. It just doesn't make sense. If Giordano were to be traded, it would be to a top 10 team looking for the final piece of the puzzle to win the cup, and he would net a bounty of trade assets... not garbage like Gardiner and a mid pick. Your proposal is like half of what Brayden freaking Coburn was traded for FFS.

[bysutter]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

If Giordano were to be traded to Toronto, the discussion would start with Morgan Rielly+2016 1st. Your 'proposal' is so off base it's not even funny, it comes off as a genuine troll job. Fact is, Toronto and Calgary are terrible trading partners, so there's no point in discussing any potential major trade between the two teams. A rebuilding team doesn't trade their captain and best player (who is one year from UFA) to another rebuilding team. It just doesn't make sense. If Giordano were to be traded, it would be to a top 10 team looking for the final piece of the puzzle to win the cup, and he would net a bounty of trade assets... not garbage like Gardiner and a mid pick. Your proposal is like half of what Brayden freaking Coburn was traded for FFS.

Garbage like Gardiner? Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry, but it's true. Good thing I didn't mention the fact that JayBo would also thrive in the new system.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by bysutter

Garbage like Gardiner? Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry, but it's true. Good thing I didn't mention the fact that JayBo would also thrive in the new system.

Compared to Giordano, Gardiner is garbage. He's like the opposite of Giordano. He's soft, terrible in own end and not even that good at what he's supposed to be good at, putting up points. Massive pass, wouldn't even trade one of our three 2nd round picks for him.

Also, JayBo >>> Gardiner and I wouldn't want JayBo either, been there done that. Gardiner is a very poor man's JayBo.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'd give him 4 or 5 years at 8 million average annual.

Five years at 8.5 I think...

Gio wants to be in calgary... You just want to offer something reasonably fair and I think he would sign, even a slightly shorter deal

[bysutter]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Compared to Giordano, Gardiner is garbage. He's like the opposite of Giordano. He's soft, terrible in own end and not even that good at what he's supposed to be good at, putting up points. Massive pass, wouldn't even trade one of our three 2nd round picks for him.

Also, JayBo >>> Gardiner and I wouldn't want JayBo either, been there done that. Gardiner is a very poor man's JayBo.

Well, I'm glad you are not handling our drafts and trades cuz you would have passed on Brodie, Johnny, Bouma, Russell etc. etc and would have traded Backlund by now.

It's all about players that fit into a system...stop looking in the rear view mirror and basing a players true talent because they happen to be on a s**t team with no sense of direction, you know, the way the Flames used to be.

[Money Baer]

5yrs @ 7.25

[greentree]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

$7,000,000 x 5 years.

This seems like a good bet imho.

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by bysutter

Well, I'm glad you are not handling our drafts and trades cuz you would have passed on Brodie, Johnny, Bouma, Russell etc. etc and would have traded Backlund by now.

It's all about players that fit into a system...stop looking in the rear view mirror and basing a players true talent because they happen to be on a s**t team with no sense of direction, you know, the way the Flames used to be.

Nice one. The "I'm sure glad that you aren't GM of the Flames". That's clever. Really.

You can also use "You obviously don't watch Hockey". It's a doozie.

Welcome to CP.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by bysutter

Well, I'm glad you are not handling our drafts and trades cuz you would have passed on Brodie, Johnny, Bouma, Russell etc. etc and would have traded Backlund by now.

It's all about players that fit into a system...stop looking in the rear view mirror and basing a players true talent because they happen to be on a s**t team with no sense of direction, you know, the way the Flames used to be.

Kinda rich coming from someone who just suggested that we trade Gio for Gardiner and a 2nd.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by bysutter

Yes it does, they are going to dump Dion and Kessel for whatever asap, Gio is a TO boy and might be a Norris candidate so the leafs fans will go nuts. We might have to eat a bad contract in the trade somewhere but I bet we could come out of the whole thing with Gardiner, a solid pick in 2016 and some more offence. Maybe throw a goalie into the mix....Reimer?

Have you...
have you ever watched Jake Gardiner play?
Have you ever watched Mark Giordano play?

Gio is 31, not 38.