I think that a lot of people complaining in general (not just on CP, but social media as a whole) aren't really boxing fans to begin with. They saw the hype of the fight and were expecting a brawl because of that. If you were actually interested in this fight five years ago, you had a pretty good idea that Floyd would do his best not to engage. The thing is the vast majority of viewers were probably not boxing fans and were expecting the brawl.
I wasn't surprised by the outcome here, and I expected Floyd to do what he does. A guy doesn't get through 48 pro fights and who knows how many amateur fights standing and trading with punchers though. That's a recipe for brain injuries.
I just love the big spectacle of these events though. It's amazing and ridiculous at the same time.
I guess Oscar DeLa Hoya and Mike Tyson don't really know boxing, right? Those two are only a few people who thinks that fight was dumb and embarrassment. Anyways I guess you are an expert boxing afficionado just like that Max Kellerman. Just admit it Mayweather was too scared to fight Pacman for 5 years and he proved it again that he is too scared to fight him last night.
If you claim you are the greatest boxer of all time (better than Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard) you have to at least put up a fight. The Money Man is correct, he freaking took the money and run.
All these mayweather haters talking about him running and about mma have no idea what they are talking about. The highest skill in fighting is avoiding getting hit. Everyone can throw a pinch, everyone can throw a kick, there are meat heads in every gym who can beat the crap out of a bag or make great sounds against a pair of mitts, but can they actually slip a punch or move and out of range?
Do you really think that the father of mma, Bruce Lee would have stood there in a fight and traded? Read his philosophy in fighting and you will understand how skilled Mayweather is. Anderson Silva does the exact same thing but his problem is that he got too cocky and left his chin out too often.
Yea it sucks and it's boring but Mayweather's skill is a marvel. The guy won't be like Ali, he's actually going to be able to enjoy the rest of his life, he's going to be fit and healthy and still end up tied with the most hallowed fight record in boxing history.
Oh and have you haters looked at the punch stats? Mayweather threw just as much as Pacqiao and landed a hell of a lot more. Saying Pacqiao won is like saying the Oilers are visually a good team.
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Floyd is a great boxer, one of the best ever. He's also a pretty terrible fighter because he doesn't actually fight. Tremendous skill for sure, but there's a reason guys with multiple losses are significantly more beloved than Floyd ever will be. It's funny but there was a tremendous action fight, FOTY candidate a few weeks ago between Provodnikov and Matthysse, but no one really paid much attention to that. Had that fight gone done last night, we'd be talking about how boxing is saved. Instead Floyd killed it apparently.
I really doubt Manny wins 5 years ago. Remember Floyd is even faster if this is 5 years ago and maybe Manny doesn't land a single meaningful shot instead of landing 3 or 4. Floyd was always a terrible matchup for Manny and he proved it last night. Didn't help that Manny had an awful game plan that was basically fight how Floyd wants to. Should have let his gloves go and gone for broke from round 1.
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I guess Oscar DeLa Hoya and Mike Tyson don't really know boxing, right? Those two are only a few people who thinks that fight was dumb and embarrassment. Anyways I guess you are an expert boxing afficionado just like that Max Kellerman. Just admit it Mayweather was too scared to fight Pacman for 5 years and he proved it again that he is too scared to fight him last night.
If you claim you are the greatest boxer of all time (better than Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard) you have to at least put up a fight. The Money Man is correct, he freaking took the money and run.
Its not that they don't know boxing, and they're entitled to their opinion. I just think that no one who watches boxing expected a brawl here. If they did then they bought the hype. That doesn't mean it was a fight for the ages, but a lot of people who watch boxing saw this coming.
I love De la Hoya as much as the next guy, but he's a promoter now. He took shots at the fight, and in the next breath promoted another fight next week. Just smart business.
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Yeah that was a super typical Mayweather fight, and I hated it. Every time I've seen him fight it's been boring. But definitely the credit goes to him last night. Not much in the way of rigging. Mayweather clearly beat Pacquiao. Unlike that time Bradley beat Pacquiao which was ridiculous. I'm still a Pacquiao fan from this point out because he has such an exciting style. He was the only reason I broke my Mayweather boycott.
At the very least, closed circuit at Mandalay Bay was pretty rockin'. Lots of Pacquiao supporters. Made the fight way more fun. Vegas has been quite abuzz all weekend actually. We'll worth the trip for the atmosphere alone.
People expected the young floyd where he put on a clinic vs JMM or Gatti? No chance. He's much slower now. In 2009, Floyd wouldn't have missed a counter. He's just too skilled for Manny.
Couldn't help but think about the couple boxing die hards here on the forum who take shots at MMA for hugging etc while watching last nights fight. Too funny.
That was typical Mayweather, vintage fight for him. Let's not forget it was a 38 and a 36 year old on the end of their careers. Not surprised at all it was a snorefest.
Is there any big boxing fights left? Is anyone interested anymore? That PPV was a joke. The huge delay for the actual fight, the filler etc etc, I just find so much about professional boxing off-putting now.
I guess Oscar DeLa Hoya and Mike Tyson don't really know boxing, right? Those two are only a few people who thinks that fight was dumb and embarrassment. Anyways I guess you are an expert boxing afficionado just like that Max Kellerman. Just admit it Mayweather was too scared to fight Pacman for 5 years and he proved it again that he is too scared to fight him last night.
If you claim you are the greatest boxer of all time (better than Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard) you have to at least put up a fight. The Money Man is correct, he freaking took the money and run.
De La Hoya is still bitter that Floyd beat him using that exact recipe.
Both Oscar and Tyson were guys who liked to stand in and punch, so of course they didn't like the fight. I said it before Floyd is not a fighter, he is a boxer and one of he best defensive counterpunchers of all time.
If they should be disappointed in anyone it should be Pacquiao, Mayweather did exact what you would expect him to do. It was Pacquiao who wasn't aggressive as he usually is since he was scared to get countered by Floyd.
I can't see how ppl said Floyd ran. He was inviting Pacquaio in and Pacman didn't attack.
Russ Anber of TSN said it best after the fight. It's not everyone's style since people want to see the slugfest but he loves watching Floyd because of the speed and footwork and pinpoint accuracy. Anybody can stand in front of somebody else and punch, what Floyd does is way more impressive and why he's undefeated.
It's like I said before Mayweather is to boxing what GSP is to MMA. People say he is afraid to fight, and is boring, but really he is just technically so much better that he doesn't have to stand there and get punched. He can beat you without taking much damage because he is technically so much better.
Boring but you can't argue they are talented and some of the best ever in their sports.
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Yeah, I wanted Pac to win but he really has no one to blame but himself for that loss. Couldn't believe how tentative he looked. He or his corner also screwed up pretty badly if they thought they were ahead in the later rounds, which you could tell they did. He should've let em fly earlier and then definitely should've fully sold out in the later rounds. Casual boxing fans are worse than casual soccer fans who bitch about how boring teams like Spain and Barcelona are or the diving, etc. If you know what it is and you don't like it, why do you bother watching? The sport isn't going to change itself for a group of people that watch it once every 5 years. The one difference with soccer is it isn't in any danger of fading into obscurity like boxing is.
So Mayweather is 48-0 now. He's going to fight one more time to fulfill his contract with Showtime, so he can tie Rocky Marciano's undefeated streak if he wins.
What are the chances he does one more fight after he fulfills his contract with Showtime just so he can hold the record? I say it's pretty high.
I thought it was a boring fight, and I hate Mayweather because of his character, criminal history and who he associates himself with, but that was a boxing clinic right there. He predicted absolutely everything Pacquiao threw at him. It was like watching two strong negative and positive magnets fights - there was always an invisible wall between them between Mayweather's so good at keeping his distance. It's a boring, annoying way to fight, but he did it well.
I for one really enjoyed the match. And I'm a big boxing fan.
The undercard was pretty entertaining as well.
This is why I enjoy watching Mayweather box, he is a pure tactician and was the only one landing quality punches.
So what if they didn't stand toe to toe and trade head shots with each other. That's not what boxing is about.
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Floyd is a great boxer, one of the best ever. He's also a pretty terrible fighter because he doesn't actually fight. Tremendous skill for sure, but there's a reason guys with multiple losses are significantly more beloved than Floyd ever will be. It's funny but there was a tremendous action fight, FOTY candidate a few weeks ago between Provodnikov and Matthysse, but no one really paid much attention to that. Had that fight gone done last night, we'd be talking about how boxing is saved. Instead Floyd killed it apparently.
I really doubt Manny wins 5 years ago. Remember Floyd is even faster if this is 5 years ago and maybe Manny doesn't land a single meaningful shot instead of landing 3 or 4. Floyd was always a terrible matchup for Manny and he proved it last night. Didn't help that Manny had an awful game plan that was basically fight how Floyd wants to. Should have let his gloves go and gone for broke from round 1.
any chance they could move up and fight Mayweather? They are about 5-10 pounds lighter now.
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Matthysse is apparently going to move up to 147 but I doubt he would give Floyd much trouble, could be a good fight though, probably better than what we just saw. There's only two guys left worth seeing Floyd fight: Keith Thurman at 147 (possible but unlikely), or Gennady Golovkin at 154 (never happening, Floyd would probably be the underdog in that fight). But Floyd will probably give us the unwanted Miguel Cotto rematch and call it a career.
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Matthysse is apparently going to move up to 147 but I doubt he would give Floyd much trouble, could be a good fight though, probably better than what we just saw. There's only two guys left worth seeing Floyd fight: Keith Thurman at 147 (possible but unlikely), or Gennady Golovkin at 154 (never happening, Floyd would probably be the underdog in that fight). But Floyd will probably give us the unwanted Miguel Cotto rematch and call it a career.
Ive heard Terrence Crawford as a good guy vs bad guy Mayweather? He's 26-0
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Is there any big boxing fights left? Is anyone interested anymore? That PPV was a joke. The huge delay for the actual fight, the filler etc etc, I just find so much about professional boxing off-putting now.
We'll Roach has a new Chinese fighter named Zou Shiming he's been training that's starting to make some noise. I've seen a few of Zou's fights, and he's definitely talented. Might see his name come up more often now, especially as Manny and Mayweather move towards retirement.
Fighting Mayweather is like playing the 90's New Jersey Devils with 22 Alexandre Burrows on their team. so glad I didn't waste a dime on this stupid fight. (and I actually thought about it)
