[GT] Flames vs Wild. Byron in!

[GioforPM]

Let's move the Byron's place on the roster debate, OK?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Yeah, I kind of realized it would come off that way, but I honestly consider myself a pretty stupid hockey fan. I continually find myself reading posts about play/goal/shift breakdowns from smarter fans and going "holy ****, all I saw was a dude shoot from the point and it went in."

So it's not coming from a place of "I'm such a smart fan and those that disagree are stupid", it's more so that I just Byron as a huge sparkplug that does all the little things right and changes the tempo of shifts due to his tenacity".

I also believe a lot of his detractors are biased due to him missing on break aways so often, breakaways that most guys in his position and salary range get one or two of in their whole careers.

Fair enough, I just see how Byron is playing right now as him hitting his developmental wall. Good role player but he's going to lose a spot to other players moving forward who have higher upside in his role.

I've never doubted his energy or what he brings. I just don't think it's enough to keep him round long term. He need to add finish to his game to keep up.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Let's move the Byron's place on the roster debate, OK?

Why? It's intermission and gamethreads don't really get that many posts compared to how many people read/view them.

I guess contact a mod if you don't like it and they can make that decision, but I don't really see Flames related discussion as that bad in game threads.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Fair enough, I just see how Byron is playing right now as him hitting his developmental wall. Good role player but he's going to lose a spot to other players moving forward who have higher upside in his role.

I've never doubted his energy or what he brings. I just don't think it's enough to keep him round long term. He need to add finish to his game to keep up.

pretty small sample size lately

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Yeah, I kind of realized it would come off that way, but I honestly consider myself a pretty stupid hockey fan. I continually find myself reading posts about play/goal/shift breakdowns from smarter fans and going "holy ****, all I saw was a dude shoot from the point and it went in."

So it's not coming from a place of "I'm such a smart fan and those that disagree are stupid", it's more so that I just see Byron as a huge sparkplug that does all the little things right and changes the tempo of shifts due to his tenacity.

I also believe a lot of his detractors are biased due to him missing on break aways so often, breakaways that most guys in his position and salary range get one or two of in their whole careers.

I'm not going to point fingers at any particular posters, but it's easy to find those that are purely what I call "optic analysists". They focus on the one negative play or aspect and disregard the other, deeper, comprehensive characteristics and plays of a player. Goaltender blamers are the biggest culprits, IMO.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dino7c

pretty small sample size lately

from 2013/14 to now? pretty small sample size?

[GreenLantern]

Just the shot in the arm this team needed tonight, big win coming up.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Fair enough, I just see how Byron is playing right now as him hitting his developmental wall. Good role player but he's going to lose a spot to other players moving forward who have higher upside in his role.



I've never doubted his energy or what he brings. I just don't think it's enough to keep him round long term. He need to add finish to his game to keep up.

But why couldn't Byron be a great 4th line player for this team? An energy guy that averages almost a breakaway a game would be an awesome piece to keep around.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Just the shot in the arm this team needed tonight, big win coming up.

While I applaud the optimism.....not in the GT man!!!!!

[Cheerio]

Engelland is doing a superb job of shutting down Brodie, unfortunately he can't stop anyone on the Wild...

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Engelland is doing a superb job of shutting down Brodie, unfortunately he can't stop anyone on the Wild...

Engelland has his flaws, but he never cost the Flames anything against that period. Wideman on the other hand, got very lucky.

[Gaudfather]

Engelland just needs to channel his Al MacInnis again tonite!

[OzSome]

Could someone please remind Devan Dubnyk he used to play for the Edmonton Oilers? Just to bring him back to earth. Mind you he hasn't been tested today. I wish they shoot more in the rest of the game.

[Flacker]

Byron's burst at the end of his shift created sustained possession in the Wild end. He has shown some pretty impressive speed on a number of his shifts. Not sure why anyone would be railing Byron.

Long-term, always earned, never given.

[killer_carlson]

according to sportsnet.ca, we got worked in the faceoff dot that period. 16-7 for the Wild. That's a 30.4% win rate.

Not acceptable.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Hahaha, of course Hiller wanted to be a goalie because of the goalie gear.

[dissentowner]

Jonas Hiller kind of looks like a giant size Peter Dinklage.

[dammage79]

Camera angle had Jones beating that icing. Such a wishy washy way to call icing this hybrid is.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Engelland has his flaws, but he never cost the Flames anything against that period. Wideman kn the other hand.....

Watch the Flames breakout when he's playing with Brodie, Engelland physically cannot pass across the blue line. When Brodie was playing with Giordano he could easily reverse to a hinging Gio. It kept the forecheckers honest, now the forecheckers know they only need to take away Brodie and the Flames breakout is screwed. Schlemko isn't perfect but he makes a good first pass, which will open up room for Brodie to play his game.

[FlamesNation23]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Jonas Hiller kind of looks like a giant size Peter Dinklage.

I have been saying this for so long!!