Aviation Appreciation Station

[speede5]

http://allthingsaero.com/general-avi...-a-golf-course

[Bigtime]

Hmm, from the article speede5 posted:

Witnesses report hearing a sputtering sound coming from the engine shortly after departing Santa Monica Airport. The aircraft was then seen turning in an attempt to make it back. Ford's experience led him to put the aircraft down on the nearby golf course.

Hmm, not to be an armchair pilot but if this eyewitness account is accurate (and many aren't even close) that's a big no no with an engine failure after departure. Many a pilot has been killed trying to turn back and entering into the stall-spin scenario.

I'd like to think the "turn" being described was Ford rather making some slight adjustments to pretty much land as straight ahead as possible and make for a fairway. That seems most likely when you see how the runway centreline continues towards the golf course:



In a small singe engine aircraft the procedure we were taught with an engine failure shortly after take off (and as such very low to the ground) was "minimal turns (to avoid obstacles and bank less than 15 degrees) and land straight ahead".

Here's the Wikipedia page on the aircraft, the Ryan PT-22 Recruit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_PT-22_Recruit

[Bigtime]

Updating the software and firmware for the A380:

[Madman]

Devin Heroux @Devin_Heroux
CL-13 Sabre just arrived in #yyc. Was found in Reno, Nevada. Going to be restored to its former glory by AFMA.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

A great story about a guy who airmailed himself from the UK to Australia as he didn't have money for a ticket.

In the mid-1960s, Australian athlete Reg Spiers found himself stranded in London with no money to buy a plane ticket home. Desperate to get back to Australia in time for his daughter's birthday, he decided to post himself in a wooden crate.

Spiers had survived three days travelling in the wooden crate. But he still faced the challenge of getting out of the airport. Fortunately, his luck continued.

"There were some tools in there so I just cut a hole in the wall and got out.

"There was no security. I put on a suit out of my bag so I looked cool, jumped through the window, walked out on to the street and thumbed a ride into town. Simple as that."

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31700049

[HOWITZER]

This is probably the best place for this discussion. Was thinking about how the car has re-shaped cities, rail has re-shaped regions (in most other parts of the world) and how air travel has defined inter-city/country travel.

However, in Canada, we have a nice big gap whereby the level of connectivity isn't there such that places intra-province aren't easily accessible. For example, living in Lloydminster, Banff is not easily accessible for a weekend getaway. If I wanted to get there in a timely manner I'd have to fly to Calgary, book a separate car rental, and drive to Banff. Is there not a gap/hole there for the person that needs to travel between medium-sized (Canadian standard) cities/towns where large airline connections are uneconomical and small outfits don't have the curbside services to be successful?

Take NWAL, Peace Air, Swanberg, Regional 1, etc.. They have all tried in various capacities to tackle connecting small cities with larger markets without much success. Would it not make sense for an outfit to act as a shuttle agency whereby you come to the airport, you get flown to your destination, and then you're given the keys to a car to go do your business? When you're done, you come back to this small airport and get whisked back wherever it is you came from, but with all payment, and booking handled through one simple and easily navigable app/website. Or are there other strategies to connect these people?

What are the barriers that limit the success of these small upstart carriers? Furthermore, what can we do to better connect people in distant smaller centres? Are small airlines doomed from the onset?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

This is probably the best place for this discussion. Was thinking about how the car has re-shaped cities, rail has re-shaped regions (in most other parts of the world) and how air travel has defined inter-city/country travel.

However, in Canada, we have a nice big gap whereby the level of connectivity isn't there such that places intra-province aren't easily accessible. For example, living in Lloydminster, Banff is not easily accessible for a weekend getaway. If I wanted to get there in a timely manner I'd have to fly to Calgary, book a separate car rental, and drive to Banff. Is there not a gap/hole there for the person that needs to travel between medium-sized (Canadian standard) cities/towns where large airline connections are uneconomical and small outfits don't have the curbside services to be successful?

Take NWAL, Peace Air, Swanberg, Regional 1, etc.. They have all tried in various capacities to tackle connecting small cities with larger markets without much success. Would it not make sense for an outfit to act as a shuttle agency whereby you come to the airport, you get flown to your destination, and then you're given the keys to a car to go do your business? When you're done, you come back to this small airport and get whisked back wherever it is you came from, but with all payment, and booking handled through one simple and easily navigable app/website. Or are there other strategies to connect these people?

What are the barriers that limit the success of these small upstart carriers? Furthermore, what can we do to better connect people in distant smaller centres? Are small airlines doomed from the onset?

Interesting thought experiment. Before I get too far down the garden path, do you mean one company that provides both flight and car rental, or simply one website that will handle both (but wouldn't Expedia, Orbitz etc already do that?)

[HOWITZER]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Interesting thought experiment. Before I get too far down the garden path, do you mean one company that provides both flight and car rental, or simply one website that will handle both (but wouldn't Expedia, Orbitz etc already do that?)

Yes you are correct. Under this model it would be the responsibility of the airline. While yes, online sites like Expedia do that, I'm more concerned with what the passenger experiences in the real world when they get there. If I land at an airstrip in Yorkton, SK, I don't think a full service car rental agency is required so much as a pre-arranged vehicle waiting in the parking lot. Think car share, but the car share organizer is the airline.

In an ideal world, air travel becomes less of a book-months-in-advance service, and more a reserve-that-day service.

[sa226]

If I am understanding what you are asking, the answer to your questions pretty much lies in the question itself. Connecting small communities.

Its just comes down to demand. Given the cost and logistics of what you are asking a potential business to do, I can't imagine any potential businessman\woman giving a second thought to launching a venture like this. The demand would have to be astronomical for anyone to even consider it. I can't imagine the demand for such a thing in smaller centers to be anywhere close to what is required.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

A Beginner's Guide to the Secret Language of Airport Runways

[Acey]

In Dubai this month, Honeywell finished up installing what it describes as the very first all-LED runway lighting system

I've got beef with this. As far as I know, YYC's new runway which opened last year is all LED.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by Acey

I've got beef with this. As far as I know, YYC's new runway which opened last year is all LED.

I'm guessing the entire lighting system in Dubai, including all taxiways, are LED... where as it's just the runway lights on the new YYC runway that are LED

[La Flames Fan]

Commissioned drone video at Mexico City Airport...

[polak]

Wouldn't LED lights get covered in snow since they don't generate heat?

Actually, I never thought of this before, how do they keep runways free of ice and snow?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by STeeLy

I'm guessing the entire lighting system in Dubai, including all taxiways, are LED... where as it's just the runway lights on the new YYC runway that are LED

YYC runway, taxiway and approach lights are all LED. Calgary Tower says on clear nights aircraft can see the lights shortly after climbing out of Edmonton. Stupid bright.

Originally Posted by polak

Wouldn't LED lights get covered in snow since they don't generate heat?

Actually, I never thought of this before, how do they keep runways free of ice and snow?

Plows and brushes. Runway/taxiway edge lighting looks like this so it's not a problem.



The embedded lights are such that even with out LED the casing would really prevent heat from melting anything over top.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it for a 737-700 to take off in the snow?

Flight leaves YHZ 7:30am Sunday

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...nday-1.2991639

[Barnes]

Planes can't fly in snow. The flakes get in the engines and and extinguish the pilot lights for the jet thruster nozzles.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it for a 737-700 to take off in the snow?

Flight leaves YHZ 7:30am Sunday

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...nday-1.2991639

As long as the runway is in adequate condition, the visibility is within limits and deicing/anti-icing be acheived and not expire before takeoff, then its not all that difficult.

Getting in there may be more of a challenge. When is it coming into YHZ?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it for a 737-700 to take off in the snow?

Flight leaves YHZ 7:30am Sunday

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...nday-1.2991639

Not particularly. The concern is WestJet cancelling the inbound flight in an effort to avoid stranding the aircraft.

Edit: 737-700 in the snow be like "let's go flying boys"

[The_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

deicing/anti-icing be acheived and not expire before takeoff, then its not all that difficult.

Indeed. Just watched this last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELORo5yIkjg