Flames to announce plans to announce arena plans in the... future...

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

In my not so humble opinion, a joint arena/stadium is not possible, and would be good for neither if done, which it won't be.

So you are Kking lol

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

In my not so humble opinion, a joint arena/stadium is not possible, and would be good for neither if done, which it won't be.

Debatable whether it is good or bad, but why would you say "not possible"?

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Table 5

If Glendale is what you consider world-class, you need to visit more of the world.



A couple of stadiums in the middle of nowhere surrounded by parking lots and some outlets is the last thing we should be striving for.

I've been to two games there and location aside, it actually is a really cool set up. Spent 50 bucks and went to a playoff game


Radulov played like crap

[getbak]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

In my not so humble opinion, a joint arena/stadium is not possible, and would be good for neither if done, which it won't be.

You mean a shared building? Yeah, that's a bad idea.

A shared facility with a separate arena and stadium but sharing all of the related support infrastructure is the way to go.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Debatable whether it is good or bad, but why would you say "not possible"?

It's possible. Anything is possible. It could be built balancing on the top of the Calgary Tower. Quick, cheap, well done. Pick two of three.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by getbak

You mean a shared building? Yeah, that's a bad idea.

A shared facility with a separate arena and stadium but sharing all of the related support infrastructure is the way to go.

Agreed...

Not "possible" was a little strong, but not sensible or feasible is more to the point, unless you had a ridiculous amount of retracting seats.
That retractable seat idea sounds like something that might work in a fieldhouse, though, to enable it to house football without there being a 400 metre track between the fans and the field like in Commonwealth.

[ken0042]

I recall the Skydome was originally billed as having configuration for hockey and basketball, but I don't think either the Raptors nor Leafs have ever played there. There just wouldn't be enough good seats. Think of the Heritage Classic. For the Alumni game I had the closest seats possible, and I was still twice as far away as I am in my Green seats at the Dome.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Agreed...

Not "possible" was a little strong, but not sensible or feasible is more to the point, unless you had a ridiculous amount of retracting seats.
That retractable seat idea sounds like something that might work in a fieldhouse, though, to enable it to house football without there being a 400 metre track between the fans and the field like in Commonwealth.

Gotcha. I read "shared site" where I think you were saying "shared facility". Shared site = good, shared facility = bad.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I recall the Skydome was originally billed as having configuration for hockey and basketball, but I don't think either the Raptors nor Leafs have ever played there. There just wouldn't be enough good seats. Think of the Heritage Classic. For the Alumni game I had the closest seats possible, and I was still twice as far away as I am in my Green seats at the Dome.

the raptors played most of 4 seasons in the skydome between 95 and 99

[Locke]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

the raptors played most of 4 seasons in the skydome between 95 and 99

And no one noticed. Or even turned the lights on for that matter.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I recall the Skydome was originally billed as having configuration for hockey and basketball, but I don't think either the Raptors nor Leafs have ever played there. There just wouldn't be enough good seats. Think of the Heritage Classic. For the Alumni game I had the closest seats possible, and I was still twice as far away as I am in my Green seats at the Dome.

the raptors played most of 4 seasons in the skydome between 95 and 99

[JBR]

Watched a Raptors game at Skydome. Damon Stoudamire (if memory serves) vs. The Admiral and the Spurs.

[getbak]

Raptors at Skydome...





The Lightning also played in the "Thunderdome" (now known as Tropicana Field) for three seasons. They routinely pulled in crowds well in excess of 20,000, which is why the Whatever the St Pete Times Forum is now called Arena was built with such a high capacity (which has subsequently been reduced considerably).




Neither setup was a viable long-term solution, which is why they were only temporary.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Limited amount of people that drive to the games?
There are the 3 Stampede lots that are all larger than any lots anywhere downtown.
The 2 level parking garage.
At least another 8 private lots that I know of.
And all of the above are completely full every game.
So if that is a reflection of attendance I would say a generous estimate would be at least 85% of the fans arrive by vehicle from what I see on a nightly basis.

There are about 3200 parking stalls on the Stampede grounds. Maybe another thousand or two in the surrounding area. That sounds like a lot but assuming every single one of those stalls was used by someone going to a Flames game (which is not true, at all) you'd have to have cars with four occupants apiece parking in all those stalls to get anywhere near 85% of the crowd.

Maybe half the crowd drives.

[ken0042]

(Insert "the more you know" image here.)

Thanks guys.

[Muta]

There's going to be a significant office component to this project too, by the way.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Muta

There's going to be a significant office component to this project too, by the way.

Stantec Tower being built in Calgary instead of Edmonton?

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Muta

There's going to be a significant office component to this project too, by the way.

You're killing me with the juicy tidbits!!

[getbak]

Originally Posted by ken0042

(Insert "the more you know" image here.)

Thanks guys.

Did you also know that the Air Canada Centre was originally going to be a basketball-only arena for the Raptors, and it wasn't until the Leafs bought the Raptors, almost a year after the groundbreaking, that the designs were significantly overhauled and the budget increased to allow the building to also accommodate hockey?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Muta

There's going to be a significant office component to this project too, by the way.

Of course. Its likely going to be everything all in one place.