[Rumour] Calgary interested in Coburn

[Vinny01]

Just looked up the Lecavilier contract and it is scary. 3 more years after this at $4.5M.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Lecavalier would be a solid replacement for Glencross in the short term and allow the Flames to move Stajan, not causing a leadership vacuum. Co burn would be a great addition on the blue line and push Engelland or Diaz to the press box when everyone is healthy. If they can work the deal for something along the lines of Raymond and a prospect like Hanowski or Reinhart then you jump all over it.

[GranteedEV]

Literally the first hit when you google him:

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...raydon-coburns

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by vinny01

just looked up the lecavilier contract and it is scary. 3 more years after this at $4.5m.

[Muta]

If taking on Lecavalier helps secure a 1st rounder in the process, you do it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by devo22

guys please enlighten me as to why you would want Lecavalier on the Flames. Signed until 2018 ... that's a horrible contract and we have a lot of C depth already. YES to Coburn, but a big NO to Lecavalier.

Because acquiring Lecavalier's contract is preferable to giving up picks in order to acquire Coburn.

I would like to see the Flames bolster their defense. But I wouldn't want to give up too many picks or prospects for Coburn.

Lacavalier's $4.5m over the next 3 years would not pose a problem for the Flames. In fact, they could turn around in a year or two and flip him with retained salary for yet another asset.

It also opens the door to move Stajan for another asset, or even to move Backlund for a bigger piece.

[Svartsengi]

Would rather take on Pronger's contract to help get Coburn. Pronger's cap hit is close to $5 million but actual salary next two years is only 525,000. Do not want Vinny

[Split98]

Originally Posted by devo22

guys please enlighten me as to why you would want Lecavalier on the Flames. Signed until 2018 ... that's a horrible contract and we have a lot of C depth already. YES to Coburn, but a big NO to Lecavalier.

Weird to quote yourself... but I had to think about it too, so I'll just quote what I put in the Trade Speculation thread:

Originally Posted by Split98

Absolutely!

2014-2015 $6M this year, so the rest of that is no problem

2015-2016 $4.5M next year, again no problem. Tons of cap space to re-sign: Jooris, Ferland, Bouma, Backlund, Baertschi, Schlemko/Diaz, Wolf, Shore, Arnold, Agostino and Ramo (along with whatever other tweeners you want to keep around)

2016-2017 $3M is his hit and this is the year to worry about. By then, Hiller is a UFA and Ortio is on a new contract. I see Ortio/Ramo or Ortio/Cheaper Hiller as our tandem, which is already less than we're paying this year I'm sure. Jones also comes up, and will certainly not be making $4M. So right there, we've made Levavalier's contract and we STILL have tons of cap room for Hudler, Giordano, Gaudreau, Monahan, Colborne, Granlund, Russell, and Wotherspoon. A lot of raises there, but it's no secret we have loads of cap space preparing for this year

2017-2018 Last year of his contract at $3M. We've already gone through the bulk of the re-signs worth noting, and are likely still fine. Some that were 1-2 years earlier will be coming up (bridge contracts from 2015-2016 for example) but not a huge issue.

Assuming that the Flyers are willing to pay to have this taken off our hands, I'm all in. We also hav Lecalvier on our team. Not who he used to be, but not a terrible guy to have around.

[Gaskal]

I think this offer on HF had both sides agreeable to it. Sven seems a little much though. The 2nd, not so bad since we got one for Glencross, and Coburn is basically a solid #3-4 that's signed for next year.

Braydon Coburn


Sven
2015 2nd

[devo22]

you're posting his salary though. Cap hit is the same every year, it's 4.5m

also, there's the issue of fitting him into the lineup, especially long term. We already pay more than 3m to our 4th line center, and with Monahan, Bennett, Backlund and some prospects in the system, we won't have any use for Lecavalier. Not this year and certainly not in the future either

[Stay Golden]

Coburn absolutely and the Glencross picks will be part the return.
The Flyers probably have their eye on a list of Flames prospects because there is no way the Flames part with their 1st round pick and nor should they.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I think this offer on HF had both sides agreeable to it. Sven seems a little much though. The 2nd, not so bad since we got one for Glencross, and Coburn is basically a solid #3-4 that's signed for next year.

That is way too much to pay for Coburn

[Gaudreau]

Let's do it EA sports style:

Coburn
Lecavalier

For
Washington 3rd
Baertschi
Diaz
2016 2nd

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Split98

Weird to quote yourself... but I had to think about it too, so I'll just quote what I put in the Trade Speculation thread:

Except his hit is 4.5 every year...no variation.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by devo22

you're posting his salary though. Cap hit is the same every year, it's 4.5m

also, there's the issue of fitting him into the lineup, especially long term. We already pay more than 3m to our 4th line center, and with Monahan, Bennett, Backlund and some prospects in the system, we won't have any use for Lecavalier. Not this year and certainly not in the future either

Ah, good point. I don't think the extra $1.5M poses much of a problem with the immense salary we have available though. If it comes down to it, letting David Jones go entirely (I was thinking we keep him for $1.5-$2M in that scenario) opens up that difference.

We also have the option of trading him on retained salary or trading Stajan on retained salary.

Fitting him in, he'd be taking Stajan's spot or sitting in the press box. We won't be picking him up to produce, just to help Philly with compensation.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau

Let's do it EA sports style:

Coburn
Lecavalier

For
Washington 3rd
Baertschi
Diaz
2016 2nd

If we are taking on Lecavalier as well, why would we be giving up anything of value?

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Because acquiring Lecavalier's contract is preferable to giving up picks in order to acquire Coburn.

I would like to see the Flames bolster their defense. But I wouldn't want to give up too many picks or prospects for Coburn.

Lacavalier's $4.5m over the next 3 years would not pose a problem for the Flames. In fact, they could turn around in a year or two and flip him with retained salary for yet another asset.

It also opens the door to move Stajan for another asset, or even to move Backlund for a bigger piece.

I just don't understand how a player who is so overpaid that a team would supposedly be willing to package a decent player with him just to get him off the books, would somehow be attractive enough the next season to get some assets in return (albeit with salary retained). I guess I just don't think Lecavalier is a good player at this point in his career, even if he was getting $2.25M.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau

Let's do it EA sports style:

Coburn
Lecavalier

For
Washington 3rd
Baertschi
Diaz
2016 2nd

So 2nd, 3rd, Baertschi and take on Vinny? How about you stick to scoring some much needed goals Gaudreau?

[dammage79]

I'd accept Lecvalier if it get Coburn at a reasonable price. Reverse 2004 Ju-ju!

[Roof-Daddy]

So many questionable contracts on the Flyers.

No wonder they struggle so much despite being a cap team some really awesome talent.

Yeah, I'd take Vinny on in order to get Coburn for cheap. With Gio out we could really use Coburn right now, and he'd help us down the road too.