LeBrun: Wouldn't surprise if Flames explore Kessel

[Buff]

Buff: Would be surprised if the Flames explore Kessel

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Burke is the only reason we are being thrown into these things. I really don't think either he or Treliving have any desire to add Kessel.

At least I really hope not. Once he passes 30, I predict Kessel to decline hard.

I disagree. I think they will inquire about Kessel just like they inquired about Kane. I don't think they will want to give up the assets though.

[FlamesAddiction]

I actually like him, but I don't think he should be a guy under the spotlight. He would probably do much better in place like Phoenix, Florida or Dallas; or on an already stacked team where the attention would be off him.

I can see the Islanders going for him though. They haven't done anything dumb in a while and are probably due.

[DJones]

I wouldn't mind him if they ate 2 million in cap. Pretty much the same as Jones is now but a huge upgrade. Probably get 4 good years anyway.

A 6 million I think he'd be a steal

[Caged Great]

I would kick the tires to do the due diligence, just because you never know what the actual price tag is. They might have a huge desire for Granlund after that awesome goal he scored on them and might overrate him accordingly. You just never know.

That said I would not overpay at all. It would have to be a near bargain.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I actually like him, but I don't think he should be a guy under the spotlight. He would probably do much better in place like Phoenix, Florida or Dallas; or on an already stacked team where the attention would be off him.

I can see the Islanders going for him though. They haven't done anything dumb in a while and are probably due.

Especially with Yashin finally off the books. Time for some dead money!
At least they are a little closer to contender status (maybe they are already), so it would make some sense. Much less so for the Flames, unless it is for the pu-pu platter of middling prospects.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DJones

I wouldn't mind him if they ate 2 million in cap. Pretty much the same as Jones is now but a huge upgrade. Probably get 4 good years anyway.

A 6 million I think he'd be a steal

Honestly, the money doesnt bother me at all. At this salary cap hes probably more or less worth his $8M.

But, is he worth being a lazy player who sets a bad example and whatever it would cost to acquire him? I dont think so.

Is he 'uncoachable?' I dont know.

If the deal was:

"Take Kessel and pay his $8M/yr."

Then sign me up. If the deal was:

"Give us two first round picks for Kessel and then pay him $8M/yr"

Then I'd pass.

[Tyler]

You guys seriously wouldn't want Phil Kessel on our team? Yalls is cray cray.

If it's strictly a salary dump with some 2nd or 3rd round picks, I'd do this in a heartbeat.

[Coach]

I think Kessel is worth his 8 million right now. I think in 3 years, it will be a boat anchor of epic proportions.

And I agree with you Locke, the asking price will just be wayyyy to ridiculous.

[Finger Cookin]

I'm going to give this thread...800 replies before training camp. Don't let me down CP.

[CaptainCrunch]

the asking price is going to be a first, a highly rated prospect and a very good young roster player.

Toronto can't afford to get less then that.

I wouldn't pay it.

Kessel is highly skilled, but I don't think he fits in the culture here, I don't think he's a star on his own, he's a complimentary player.

And if you watch him play, he's lazy. On the plus side he's the fastest fatso in the NHL.

[DJones]

I never thought of him being lazy.

Give him a legitimate center and get him away from the sess pool that is the Toronto Media and the only time you'll ever hear about him is on the nightly highlights.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Tyler

You guys seriously wouldn't want Phil Kessel on our team? Yalls is cray cray.

If it's strictly a salary dump with some 2nd or 3rd round picks, I'd do this in a heartbeat.

There are problems:

It won't be a salary dump. They will be asking for one of our top young guys (IE Mony, Gaudreau, Bennett) and a 1st...and probably then some. Unsure about Bennett as he hasn't played NHL hockey yet, but personally I consider Mony and Gaudreau to be better than Kessel at this moment. His goal production be damned, he doesn't do anything else that helps a team win games.

His salary is market RIGHT NOW. It won't be within a few years and we won't be able to trade him if it isn't.

He's just not worth it, and just not THAT good.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by devo22

"it wouldn't surprise me" ... lol, that's the most conservative play-it-safe card available. Make up a random rumour after connecting some dots (like the lazy "player X has played for GM/coach/whatever Y before" connection made in this case) and just throw in there a "it wouldn't surprise me". Easy. And if every tenth "it wouldn't surprise me" comes to fruition, you can say "I told you so". Clever.

Nothing to see here, really.

that, and Treliving is a "leave no stone unturned" guy. I'm pretty sure Treliving has been in the running for every noteworhty player that is traded, teh only question is serious talks became.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

the asking price is going to be a first, a highly rated prospect and a very good young roster player.

Toronto can't afford to get less then that.

I wouldn't pay it.

Kessel is highly skilled, but I don't think he fits in the culture here, I don't think he's a star on his own, he's a complimentary player.

And if you watch him play, he's lazy. On the plus side he's the fastest fatso in the NHL.

if we're talking Baertschi + Granlund + 1st in '16...I think I'd definitely look at that, especially if asset-wise we can snag a 2nd rounder in '15 or '16 from moving Glencross.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DJones

I never thought of him being lazy.

Give him a legitimate center and get him away from the sess pool that is the Toronto Media and the only time you'll ever hear about him is on the nightly highlights.

Um. Then what did you think of him? Hes notoriously lazy. No backchecking, slow changes and comes into camp unfit and overweight.

He defines lazy within the perspective of professional sports.

[N-E-B]

Kessel is an elite scorer in the NHL, there's no question about it. I'd love a player like him on the Flames, but (and this is a huge but) that 8mil/year contract he's on is unbelievably awful. We'd have to really fleece the Leafs for me to want to trade for him. I'd assume the starting point would be Bennett/Monahan/Gaurdreau so a huge no thanks.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Locke

Um. Then what did you think of him? Hes notoriously lazy. No backchecking, slow changes and comes into camp unfit and overweight.

He defines lazy within the perspective of professional sports.

He is going to have a rather quick drop off the map. No years of slowing down until it's time to retire. With Kessel it will be one day a top player the next day he stinks.

[N26]

[DJones]

Originally Posted by MattyC

There are problems:

It won't be a salary dump. They will be asking for one of our top young guys (IE Mony, Gaudreau, Bennett) and a 1st...and probably then some. Unsure about Bennett as he hasn't played NHL hockey yet, but personally I consider Mony and Gaudreau to be better than Kessel at this moment. His goal production be damned, he doesn't do anything else that helps a team win games.

His salary is market RIGHT NOW. It won't be within a few years and we won't be able to trade him if it isn't.

He's just not worth it, and just not THAT good.

No way in hell will anyone give a top prospect(Bennett, Mony, Gaudreau) and a first for a player with Kessels contract. That's how people get fired.

Wouldn't be surprised if a 1st and Baertschi will be as good an offer as whoever "wins" him.