Feb 3 Practice. Sven and Granlund likely scratched. Hiller starts.

[sureLoss]

Randy Sportak @SUNRandySportak
Forgot to note this right away. #Flames coach Hartley said Jonas Hiller is to start tomorrow vs. Sharks. Yeah, it’s no surprise.

[Toonage]

Someone asked (in another thread I believe) what the Flames record was with Sven in the line up this year. I would be curious about that as well if someone doesn't mind doing the leg work.

For some reason it just seems the team plays well with him in the line up. Maybe an actual record comparison would refute that, but it would be interesting to know.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Someone asked (in another thread I believe) what the Flames record was with Sven in the line up this year. I would be curious about that as well if someone doesn't mind doing the leg work.

For some reason it just seems the team plays well with him in the line up. Maybe an actual record comparison would refute that, but it would be interesting to know.

12-3-0

lost vs Tampa, Chicago and Anaheim. Won all the others.

Game Log:

CGY at MTL 6-2 W
CGY at WSH 4-3 OTW
CGY at TBL 2-5 L
CGY at FLA 6-4 W
ARI at CGY 3-5 W
OTT at CGY 2-4 W
ANA at CGY 3-4 SOW
CHI at CGY 4-3 L
NJD at CGY 4-5 SOW
CGY at ANA 2-3 L
CGY at SJS 2-0 W
CGY at ARI 3-0 W
ARI at CGY 2-5 W
COL at CGY 3-4 OTW
WPG at CGY 2-5 W

[ComixZone]

Our record with Sven:

12 wins
3 losses

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Randy Sportak @SUNRandySportak
Forgot to note this right away. #Flames coach Hartley said Jonas Hiller is to start tomorrow vs. Sharks. Yeah, it’s no surprise.

I wonder what the plan is for the goalies. This is a big game and you can't fault Hartley for going with Hiller because he's been solid lately. At the same time, you have to wonder when Ramo's going to get another shot. His contract is up this season, the trade deadline is coming up and he hasn't played in almost two months. He's got to get in some time and there aren't any soft games in the schedule. In hindsight it probably would have been a good idea to play him against the Oilers.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Someone asked (in another thread I believe) what the Flames record was with Sven in the line up this year. I would be curious about that as well if someone doesn't mind doing the leg work.

For some reason it just seems the team plays well with him in the line up. Maybe an actual record comparison would refute that, but it would be interesting to know.

makes sense:

[Toonage]

While it can be argued that its totally coincidental (and we can argue that another time), some players just bring certain intangibles to a team even if they aren't touching the scoreboard every night. Whether they keep the room loose or are good on the bench. Sven could be one of those guys.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

He's a -3 player in those games, how does it make sense?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

He's a -3 player in those games, how does it make sense?

Because Devin Setoguchi was pretty terrible.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Because Devin Setoguchi was pretty terrible.

Oh right, it's Setoguchi's fault. Carry on.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

makes sense:

Just my opinion, not rooted in fact. No need for a power point presentation.

[Fire]

Having Sven replace Byron on the 4th line doesn't make any sense. Byron can actually play the 4th line role well, Sven on the other hand needs to higher up the line-up to be effective.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Just my opinion, not rooted in fact. No need for a power point presentation.

Opinions are often improved if they are rooted in fact.

[SeanCharles]

My ideal lineup with current injuries:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler
Baertschi-Backlund-Jones
Raymond-Jooris-Colborne
Bouma-Stajan-Byron

Gio-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Wotherspoon-Diaz

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, that was good. He tried to get the puck - on thing I think someone needs to teach him is how to come out of the right side of the puck when doing so. Not that it would have worked on Big Buf, but in his past callup he would head to the puck but always find the defender's body in between. The really good forecheckers seem to anticipate the defender turning and manage to disrupt the play. If you just go in and bump the back of the defender as he's moving the puck you end up behind the play going the other way. It's not a size or muscle thing - Byron does it pretty well. It's more thinking ahead.

I appreciate what Byron does but I think Sven could play it a bit differently and still be effective. I'd rather he emulate TJ Brodie's strategy. Rather than going in for shoulder-to-shoulder checks along the boards, he tends to take that extra half-stride to nudge himself just in front of the player. He effectively throws a body check at a guy's stick in order to position himself between the player and the puck.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

While it can be argued that its totally coincidental (and we can argue that another time), some players just bring certain intangibles to a team even if they aren't touching the scoreboard every night. Whether they keep the room loose or are good on the bench. Sven could be one of those guys.

Yeah, that's what everyone has reported about Sven. A real cut-up in the room, a leader on the bench.

The Flames are 1-0 with Wolf and with Shore. 3-2 with Ferland.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

My ideal lineup with current injuries:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler
Baertschi-Backlund-Jones
Raymond-Jooris-Colborne
Bouma-Stajan-Byron

Gio-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Wotherspoon-Diaz

I second that.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, that's what everyone has reported about Sven. A real cut-up in the room, a leader on the bench.

Has there ever been anything negative said about Sven in the dressing room?

He seemed to be pouty last season when sent down, but that's it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I appreciate what Byron does but I think Sven could play it a bit differently and still be effective. I'd rather he emulate TJ Brodie's strategy. Rather than going in for shoulder-to-shoulder checks along the boards, he tends to take that extra half-stride to nudge himself just in front of the player. He effectively throws a body check at a guy's stick in order to position himself between the player and the puck.

Yup, smart. I was telling my kid to do that in PeeWee (non contact of course) because he was going for the puck along the boards and getting body contact penalties. Pin the stick, get the puck.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Has there ever been anything negative said about Sven in the dressing room?

He seemed to be pouty last season when sent down, but that's it.

No, but there tends to be stories about guys who are leaders like Gio and Stajan and/or guys who loosen things up, like McGrattan and Bouma. By all accounts Sven is a quiet guy.