11-02-2014, 12:35 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
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yes, insult anyone who disagrees with you. That's taking the high ground!
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11-02-2014, 12:37 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Recently there has been a string of hits that the refs did not even issue a penalty. Those clearly suspendable hits resulted in the NHL head office rightfully handing down player suspensions.
It is about time these refs receive game suspensions as well.
JMO NHL refs are not held accountable where they should be.
Hopefully Ferland recovers quickly. Concussions are a nasty injury to deal with.
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11-02-2014, 12:38 PM
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#103
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Lifetime Suspension
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Meh, he now sits out 4 games that will probably hurt us in the standings. Don't see how that helps us.
He sits out against the Canucks, Jets, Stars and Blues. All Western conference teams.
Punishment does need to be doled out but I wish they could somehow make him miss the next 4 games against Calgary.
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11-02-2014, 12:38 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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I think lot of the time its a lot to do with the Union interfering. I would suggest he requested the extra day to talk to who ever he need to talk to about the hearing. His agent, his union etc.
Unions are No Good . They are just special interest groups, there what destroyed Detroit.
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11-02-2014, 12:40 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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perfect decision IMO. 2 games for the hit, 1 extra game for being a repeat offender, 1 extra game for Ferland being concussed.
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11-02-2014, 12:43 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermitology
What a whiney fan base were becoming. 4 games is just fine.
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No kidding. IMO if not for the history I don't even think it was suspension worthy. Unlucky for sure but it looked like volchenkov was just trying to be big so he didn't miss Ferland and because Ferland was low he accidently caught him with the forearm.
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11-02-2014, 01:09 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
No kidding. IMO if not for the history I don't even think it was suspension worthy. Unlucky for sure but it looked like volchenkov was just trying to be big so he didn't miss Ferland and because Ferland was low he accidently caught him with the forearm.
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Accidental or not, it was a clear head shot and exactly the type of hit the league is trying to eliminate. I think the NHL got it right on this occasion.
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11-02-2014, 01:10 PM
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#108
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
I can't find the video, but Grapes was talking about exactly this on Coaches Corner a couple years back. He was speaking to how the hard plastics are like being hit by a cement wall now compared to the leather and padding it used to be.
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Grapes has been talking about the danger of using hard plastic pads since the very first Rock'em Sock'em video. The poor design of padding has been a decades-old problem.
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11-02-2014, 01:13 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Accidental or not, it was a clear head shot and exactly the type of hit the league is trying to eliminate. I think the NHL got it right on this occasion.
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But IMO intent is what separates something from a being a in game penalty/fineable offense and something that is suspension worthy.
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11-02-2014, 01:14 PM
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#110
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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suspension video
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11-02-2014, 01:20 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Seems pretty clear-cut to me.
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11-02-2014, 01:22 PM
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#112
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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I can't remember but is this the first time a player has been suspended for an incident against the Flames?
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11-02-2014, 01:23 PM
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#113
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Self-Suspension
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Grapes has been talking about the danger of using hard plastic pads since the very first Rock'em Sock'em video. The poor design of padding has been a decades-old problem.
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great at stopping the cranium from fracturing, terrible at protecting the brain.
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11-02-2014, 01:34 PM
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#114
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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4 games seems right for a repeat offender.
I honestly didn't find it to be a vicious hit to the head, like Ference on Kassian last night, for example.
Ference deserves 5 games for that hit, but since Kassian doesn't seem to be injured, I'm going to guess he gets 3.
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11-02-2014, 01:37 PM
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#115
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
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Volchenkov has been suspended twice previously for elbowing. Volchenkov gets 4 games this time, which is exactly what he got for the Marchand elbowing.
Now THAT'S sending a message that repeated conduct like this just won't be tolerated.
Last edited by Rerun; 11-02-2014 at 01:44 PM.
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11-02-2014, 01:51 PM
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#116
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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Quote:
Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
I think lot of the time its a lot to do with the Union interfering. I would suggest he requested the extra day to talk to who ever he need to talk to about the hearing. His agent, his union etc.
Unions are No Good . They are just special interest groups, there what destroyed Detroit.
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Ya, special interest groups looking out for the employee. Unions take a lot of slack because of a few cases of corruption, but let me assure you, in most industries that have one there is a very good reason; to prevent abuse from ownership.
I can live with him having to take an extra day to consult with a union rep because I know there were a lot of guys who spent time being abused and taken for granted by owners and getting paid peanuts.
Unions are a great tool, the issue isn't with unions, it's with bad unions.
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11-02-2014, 02:06 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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4 seems like a lot but I guess he's a repeat offender.
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11-02-2014, 02:16 PM
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#118
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
4 seems like a lot but I guess he's a repeat offender.
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I don't think its enough. This is his 3rd suspension for elbowing. He got 4 last time for elbowing Marchand (who also ended up with a concussion).
He apparently didn't learn his lesson from the Marchand suspension so 4 games obviously isn't enough.
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11-02-2014, 02:23 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by belsarius
Ya, special interest groups looking out for the employee. Unions take a lot of slack because of a few cases of corruption, but let me assure you, in most industries that have one there is a very good reason; to prevent abuse from ownership.
I can live with him having to take an extra day to consult with a union rep because I know there were a lot of guys who spent time being abused and taken for granted by owners and getting paid peanuts.
Unions are a great tool, the issue isn't with unions, it's with bad unions.
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I've been part of many unions. Just don't like them. Even a few really good ones. The problem is they protect everyone , not just the good ones. Everyone has worked with someone at one point or another and thought " How they hell does this person still working here, let alone get hired?." Unfortunately Unions have to treat every worked as If the are equals even the ne'er-do-wells.
Example in the NHL would be Burrows.
Edit: The teacher union here in BC caused a huge disruption at the end of the school year. While their special interest group was trying to get what the wanted they put a burden on the rest of the population in BC. People had to stay home with their kids or find other means of care. If they cared about the kids like they kept saying they would have worked while they hammered out a deal.
Last edited by combustiblefuel; 11-02-2014 at 04:52 PM.
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11-02-2014, 03:44 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
suspension video
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I don't agree with all of the analysis, but the hit was reckless, Ferland was injured, and there's a suspension history, so the ruling was about right.
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