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Old 10-21-2014, 04:01 PM   #3421
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You know I keep going back through posts and despite what he has done and combined with what was in my message about Rathji posting in mafia topic which the more I think about it the more it seems to me like they meant the mafia discussion board the scum use. I am starting to become convinced that:
1: GGG is in fact lynchproof after last night and
2: Rathji is playing us like a fiddle and his power was a scum power.
This is comical.

You not only think that the power to skip a night is a scum power, but at the same time you also think that my plan to use my one-shot kill to kill the person that Wood chose in order to get a double kill in a day?

Well, I guess we can put that out to the masses and see what they think...

As for the underlined part, I have no idea what you are talking about, but you should probably quote it, to provide actual evidence, rather than just stirring the pot to try and deflect.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:01 PM   #3422
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You think so. Then lynch me and when I flip town you will see I am absolutely right. Give me any proof Rathji is town. Saying he is a comfirmed townie is why we are losing this game.
We don't have proof Rathji is town.

He is more townie then the unknowns

Girly,
You,
Aeneas
Squiggs
Oling

Also more town then
Timbo and myself.

How when you flip town will we know that you are absolutely right. This statement does not make sense. If you filp town we know you weren't trying to mislead us but it does nothing to prove that your idea is correct.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:12 PM   #3423
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Have to weigh the consequences of potentially having found the cop for the mafia. .
I do think our consequences are limited because of Timbo. If we start going for the cop Timbo, if he is town, he will tell us.

So we can't accidentally lynch the cop if Timbo is town.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:12 PM   #3424
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So here's what the Guardians message sent to me contained:

-started with a Dissentowner quote from when he said that he received an offer from an unknown source

-my message said that it was "clearly a guardians invite" and there were no strings attached. They just wanted to give suggestions of what to do

-He specified he was a guy, and he was put in charge of restructuring the Guardians after poor day 1 and 2 performances

-Said they haven't reached the goal of 100% recruitment but happy with progress

-eternals aren't much of a threat now that they have nobody joining

-They feel the reason they haven't successfully recruited is because they haven't properly explained what their goal is. They want to fix that

-Says the Gaurdians are an organization dedicated to protecting the good in the world from those that are looking to make it dull

-The next part I can't really explain without quoting it entirely, I'm not sure I understand it anyways though. I think it's just flavor

-the power offered is a "Pow Block" and it allows me to vote a second time today. Today only I'd assume

-finished the message with a P.S. laughing and saying how GGG lived, he's our member and don't mess with the Gaurdians "OG Crew" if you can't handle it
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:21 PM   #3425
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We don't have proof Rathji is town.

He is more townie then the unknowns

Girly,
You,
Aeneas
Squiggs
Oling

Also more town then
Timbo and myself.

How when you flip town will we know that you are absolutely right. This statement does not make sense. If you filp town we know you weren't trying to mislead us but it does nothing to prove that your idea is correct.
No, he isn't and again, that is why we are losing the game. Allocating anybody as a townie is just foolish unless the cop says so.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:22 PM   #3426
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Also more town then
Timbo and myself.
So are you saying you are not town? I mean if you know Rathji is more town than you or Timbo yet you can't be sure Rathji is town...
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:27 PM   #3427
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This is comical.

You not only think that the power to skip a night is a scum power, but at the same time you also think that my plan to use my one-shot kill to kill the person that Wood chose in order to get a double kill in a day?

Well, I guess we can put that out to the masses and see what they think...

As for the underlined part, I have no idea what you are talking about, but you should probably quote it, to provide actual evidence, rather than just stirring the pot to try and deflect.
It can be done though. Skipping a night can be used to a mob advantage. How do we know you are not the one giving out these powers and you knew the power would not work? So you let wood choose the target, it doesn't matter who the target is, you know it isn't going to work. Or you could be being honest about it all. Anything is possible. But why would the unknown source who messaged me want you to comment on your one shot power and then ask me to ask you to your thoughts in the mafia topic? The question there is did they mean this board or the board the scum use to communicate with eachother?
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:28 PM   #3428
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:35 PM   #3429
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No, he isn't and again, that is why we are losing the game. Allocating anybody as a townie is just foolish unless the cop says so.
So how do you determine who do vote for if you don't create a list from the most town person to the most scummy person. I think you just drank some of the girlysports surprise the mob don't post anything about anyone kool-aid.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:36 PM   #3430
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-finished the message with a P.S. laughing and saying how GGG lived, he's our member and don't mess with the Gaurdians "OG Crew" if you can't handle it
http://www.urbandictionary.com/autho...author=OG+Crew
Had to look this up...
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^Sorry... that was just the poster.
I thought they were saying GGG was gay.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:38 PM   #3432
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So here's what the Guardians message sent to me contained:

-started with a Dissentowner quote from when he said that he received an offer from an unknown source

-my message said that it was "clearly a guardians invite" and there were no strings attached. They just wanted to give suggestions of what to do

-He specified he was a guy, and he was put in charge of restructuring the Guardians after poor day 1 and 2 performances

-Said they haven't reached the goal of 100% recruitment but happy with progress

-eternals aren't much of a threat now that they have nobody joining

-They feel the reason they haven't successfully recruited is because they haven't properly explained what their goal is. They want to fix that

-Says the Gaurdians are an organization dedicated to protecting the good in the world from those that are looking to make it dull

-The next part I can't really explain without quoting it entirely, I'm not sure I understand it anyways though. I think it's just flavor

-the power offered is a "Pow Block" and it allows me to vote a second time today. Today only I'd assume

-finished the message with a P.S. laughing and saying how GGG lived, he's our member and don't mess with the Gaurdians "OG Crew" if you can't handle it
My invite was the first one that mentioned restructuring. I don't see how an extra vote helps you today. The only thing it would allow us to do is to test to see if the guardian powers work. We would put the required number of lynch votes and no more on someone and then wait for lynch.

How many living guardians do we have 3? We might want to be careful to not have a majority of guardians alive and trigger some ####### modd win condition. I don't think it is much of a risk but does you having an extra vote today help us?
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:40 PM   #3433
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So how do you determine who do vote for if you don't create a list from the most town person to the most scummy person. I think you just drank some of the girlysports surprise the mob don't post anything about anyone kool-aid.
I have not drank anything from GS, I just voted to lynch her. I am saying that saying stuff like so and so is a confirmed town member is foolish. Some are better suspects than others but everybody should be looked at. That message I got makes me suspicious of Rathji but I am not voting to lynch him right now, I need to see more of his posts. It is all a crapshoot really but my money is on GS or Squiggs who continues to lay in the weeds and only does what everyone else suggests.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:41 PM   #3434
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Do we want to have the should the cop reveal conversation today. You all know my opinion on it. But we are down to

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Girly

None of who I really believe is the cop. I think the cop should reveal if they can clear any living Townies including Wood, Starseed, Puxlut, etc. This is the last I will mention of it.
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Puxlut, without revealing your decision, have you responded to the flame thing?

I still think all these invites are coming from the same person to cause as much problems as possible and only 1 invite (or PM) is out at the same time. If you haven't responded yet though my theory is blown to pieces.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:43 PM   #3436
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Do we want to have the should the cop reveal conversation today. You all know my opinion on it. But we are down to

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Girly

None of who I really believe is the cop. I think the cop should reveal if they can clear any living Townies including Wood, Starseed, Puxlut, etc. This is the last I will mention of it.
I can't agree with that. The cop should come forward if he has at minimum 2 scum on his reveals. The cop coming out and saying I can confirm so and so is town but everyone else I looked at is dead would screw the town royally when they night kill him.
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Do we want to have the should the cop reveal conversation today. You all know my opinion on it. But we are down to

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Girly

None of who I really believe is the cop. I think the cop should reveal if they can clear any living Townies including Wood, Starseed, Puxlut, etc. This is the last I will mention of it.
I think Timbo should reveal if we do decide to go down this route. It's one thing we're on the same page about, I think.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:48 PM   #3438
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I can't agree with that. The cop should come forward if he has at minimum 2 scum on his reveals. The cop coming out and saying I can confirm so and so is town but everyone else I looked at is dead would screw the town royally when they night kill him.
I'm not saying I disagree. I'm going back and forth.

But didn't you just make an argument how we can't put anyone on confirmed townie list and the only person who can reveal is the cop?

So now what happens if he dies tonight? No confirmed townies, in your opinion. I mean at this point the mafia almost has to know who the cop is. Maybe at worst they have 2 targets and can probably kill one and block the other (assuming Squiggs96 is telling the truth about his power it only works if the mafia have a blocker).
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Puxlut, without revealing your decision, have you responded to the flame thing?

I still think all these invites are coming from the same person to cause as much problems as possible and only 1 invite (or PM) is out at the same time. If you haven't responded yet though my theory is blown to pieces.
I just replied. I said I would accept. I just got the idea that my message was someone different from Wood, so just seeing if it's the eternals. I don't have to use my fire (if I get it and if it works...) We'll just have to see which side I joined.
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It can be done though. Skipping a night can be used to a mob advantage. How do we know you are not the one giving out these powers and you knew the power would not work? So you let wood choose the target, it doesn't matter who the target is, you know it isn't going to work. Or you could be being honest about it all. Anything is possible. But why would the unknown source who messaged me want you to comment on your one shot power and then ask me to ask you to your thoughts in the mafia topic? The question there is did they mean this board or the board the scum use to communicate with eachother?
ok, I am listening.

In order for you to prove that it is possible for me t be mafia, you must fulfill the following 2 conditions:

1. Prove that it makes sense to Mazrim to give that power to a Mafia member.

To do this, give me any common situation, where it would make sense for a mafia member to skip the only time they are able to kill people (baring vigilante powers, which are clearly a Townie power in almost every circumstance)?

Any situation will do, except ####### Mod games, which Mazrim clearly has indicated that this is not one of.


2. Then, explain why a mafia member would use that ability in this time of the game where they are dominating so clearly.

After you have done that, then we can continue with your thing. However, until then, you are just distracting the town from what we need to be doing, so I will pay no more attention to your accusations.
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