^^Great, but you wouldn't walk around Doha at 2PM cause there's a strong chance of dying from heatstroke. Remember I'm not talking about people who live there, I'm talking about people who visit who are not acclimated to 120 degrees. And oh yeah, are likely to be drinking excessively in that 120 degree heat. Almost guarantee you a fan or many fans will die of heat related stuff if it goes on in Qatar. FIFA should have known that from day 1, but nothing beats a good bribe to make you forget about anyone but yourself and healthier bank account.
Plus the whole sponsoring terrorism thing. I can't imagine many want to help a country such as that with tourism money.
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^^Great, but you wouldn't walk around Doha at 2PM cause there's a strong chance of dying from heatstroke. Remember I'm not talking about people who live there, I'm talking about people who visit who are not acclimated to 120 degrees. And oh yeah, are likely to be drinking excessively in that 120 degree heat. Almost guarantee you a fan or many fans will die of heat related stuff if it goes on in Qatar. FIFA should have known that from day 1, but nothing beats a good bribe to make you forget about anyone but yourself and healthier bank account.
Plus the whole sponsoring terrorism thing. I can't imagine many want to help a country such as that with tourism money.
That's why I said they should play the tournament in the winter. Either that or trust that Qatar will get their cooling technology for stadiums and spectator areas working before the start of the tournament. That was a big part of their bid and fifa seemed go be OK with it when they awarded them the tournament. There's no indication that Qatar has backed down on their commitments, so why is this suddenly an issue?
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I think a lot of fear mongering about oppressive religious based laws is part of the trouble.
Qatar would be a pretty safe place for football supporters.
The corruption and virtual slave labour should be the reason they lose their bid
Sure... But FIFA already knew about the conditions in the country.
I would love for this tournament to be held closer to home (rumor is, if they take this away from Qatar, it'll go to Canada, the US or a combination of the two), but it just seems rather scummy for FIFA to take this away from Qatar after so much time and money has been invested into it already.
these allegations that FIFA is corrupt are stunning to me; however, it should b enoted that while I am a sports fan, I am not really a scoccer fan - so I may have jsut missed the signs while I was watching TV in my gumdrop house on lollypop lane.......
The "fact" it gets up to over 40 in Qutar is only a recent short term blip. I think that sitting ina cramped stadium with 99,999 or so my my closest freisnds would be more relaxing than a day at the beach.....
FIFA's been corrupt since the First World Cup in 1930 when they argued over which ball to use in the final.
It isn't just the stadiums though, if you've ever been to a world cup there are many things to do throughout the city and as mentioned in a possible bid for Calgary, how do taxis and public transportation get around? Getting crammed onto a bus or train when it's 45 degrees is dangerous.
And it wouldn't be the first time the World Cup was moved. The 1986 World Cup was supposed to be in Colombia but was moved to Mexico who had all the facilities from the 1970 tournament. Mostly due to corruption and the emerging drug cartels.
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So, they are just realizing now that Qatar is hot in the summer?
Maybe they were waiting until they spent all the money? You know the old saying - "You never give a kickback back!"
These guys are such bald-faced crooks, it's almost funny.. Well, stealing money from the citizens and giving it to high-falutin' football dip$hit$ isn't funny, but the weather excuse is so ridiculous you just have to laugh.
Why is there so much focus on fifa being corrupt? Hasn't the nfl proven lately they're corrupt as well? Bounty payments, drug coverups, now abuse coverups.
Why is there so much focus on fifa being corrupt? Hasn't the nfl proven lately they're corrupt as well? Bounty payments, drug coverups, now abuse coverups.
Because FIFA is a complete ####show?
I don't get this question. What does NFL corruption have to do with anything in a thread about FIFA and World Cup? Billions of people care about FIFA, compared to the millions of people that care about NFL.
Psst... You're in a World Cup thread, not in an NFL thread.
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Why not just hold the tournament in the winter then? I know the European leagues are going to bitch and complain about this, but a lot of the leagues where some of the top players play these days run their season in the summer (MLS and Russian league).
Which top players are you speaking of?
Russia doesn't play in the summer season.
Bitch & complain? That's 100+ years of leagues structuring their schedules to the fall to spring. It's not just Europe, it's global. You have early season qualifying that starts in August -- Continental cups (Europa/Champions League/Copa Libertadores/etc; ), domestic cups (FA/Copa del Rey/dfp Pokal), etc; I mentioned this in another thread, but the impact would be a massive scheduling disruption for 50 of the world's top leagues.
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I couldn't disagree more Q. Those two leagues are Championship/League 1 level at best.
Why is there so much focus on fifa being corrupt? Hasn't the nfl proven lately they're corrupt as well? Bounty payments, drug coverups, now abuse coverups.
I would be curious to learn why you think the current troubles in the NFL has any relationship or bearing on the current troubles of FIFA. Particularly given this thread topic is about FIFA and its corruption. So the better question is, what point do you think you're making here?
Russia doesn't play in the summer season.
Bitch & complain? That's 100+ years of leagues structuring their schedules to the fall to spring. It's not just Europe, it's global. You have early season qualifying that starts in August -- Continental cups (Europa/Champions League/Copa Libertadores/etc; ), domestic cups (FA/Copa del Rey/dfp Pokal), etc; I mentioned this in another thread, but the impact would be a massive scheduling disruption for 50 of the world's top leagues.
In South America they have two breaks and two seasons (Apertura and Clausura) instead of one summer break so a World Cup in either January or June would work for them.
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World Cup probably isn't going to be played in Winter. Leagues are already threatening to demand (i.e. sue) compesnation if it happens, FOX (the US broadcaster going forward) would be furious as it would run concurrent with the NFL season and has said they'll seek compensation. Can't happen in February either (Olympics). If it does go to Winter the Qatari government is gonna be out many more billions to make every one else happy.
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The top players take a stand and declare that they will not be attending or supporting anything built on the kidnapping and deaths of modern day slavery.
It absolutely astounds me. Child slavery is condemned all over the world but yet here you have a sporting event being constructed on clear as day evidence of modern day adult slavery, kidnapping and zero human rights and yet a blind eye is turned to it. You even have one of the top clubs in the world with UNICEF on their shirts but silent when it comes to their players attending this event.
I believe it just takes one player to have the gonads to speak out and take a stand and others will follow suit and there is the opportunity here for some of the most powerful athletes in the world to send a statement. By refusing to do so imo is simply to turn a blind eye to and inadvertently support the abuse and death of slaves. Top players pull out, corporate sponsorship gets rattled and maybe changes are made.
I honestly am baffled that this goes on in this day and age AND gets global support. It sends the message that child sweatshops where they get to go home everyday are condemned but adult slavery is acceptable.
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In South America they have two breaks and two seasons (Apertura and Clausura) instead of one summer break so a World Cup in either January or June would work for them.
The problem still lies in that the majority of those players don't play in domestic leagues - they all play in UEFA.
Bagor: I agree but players just love playing for the countries too much. They fear (realistically or not) that their federations can boot them off the team or the federations themselves can be suspended by FIFA. FIFA has suspended federations for things as simple as using an ineligible player in a youth tournament.
Maybe I'm not as patriotic as most but when it comes to sports, I would be club before country. The club pays my wages. I don't get why players kill themselves to play in a tournament where the bureaucrats get all the money.
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Bagor: I agree but players just love playing for the countries too much. They fear (realistically or not) that their federations can boot them off the team or the federations themselves can be suspended by FIFA. FIFA has suspended federations for things as simple as using an ineligible player in a youth tournament.
Sadly there are few players in any sport that have the courage of their convictions, to that extent.
That is one of the reasons I am a huge fan of Michael Jones (and I am an atheist)
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Maybe I'm not as patriotic as most but when it comes to sports, I would be club before country. The club pays my wages. I don't get why players kill themselves to play in a tournament where the bureaucrats get all the money.
You know it is all about money. They get paid by their associations to play and get win bonus as well. Also, playing on the national team increases their own personal "brand".
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Bagor: I agree but players just love playing for the countries too much. They fear (realistically or not) that their federations can boot them off the team or the federations themselves can be suspended by FIFA. FIFA has suspended federations for things as simple as using an ineligible player in a youth tournament.
Absolutely wrong to just assume that players just love playing for their countries too much.
Let's take Ronaldo and Messi as an example. You think the Portugese and Argentinian FA are going to ban them or anyone else for that matter for taking a stance against Slavery. The optics would be terrible. You think there would be no backlash? From fans and players? Punishing someone for speaking out against such a matter? Same for FIFA. Whose side do you think the public and players would take? A lot of noise is created. Then you have the big corporations involved.
