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Old 09-05-2014, 10:09 AM   #121
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They aren't simply Walmart employees. It's not like two cashiers thought the guy was stealing and jumped him in the parking lot. These guys are licensed from the government, and hired for this. This wouldn't be suspected shoplifting, this would be them witnessing a crime and doing their job, defending themselves when someone is preventing them from doing it.

Worth adding this guy had a history of theft and violence prior to this.
Should LPO's have this power? Its essentially licensing a private police force. Now its far cheaper to have undertrained and poorly paid (relative to the police) deal with these types of crimes but it definately will lead to cases like this.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:12 PM   #122
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Ouch ! Yes some people get violent. The worst thing I got hit with when I was working security for Hip Hop show at a small bar here in Victoria was a woonden stool. I was not the initial targeted person. Two groups of 10 people started fighting after a guy threw a drink at a girl. Then all hell broke loose. One thing lead to another a guy moved I got hit in the back. I fell down and walked on and kicked.

The end result was VICPD showed up as the fight spilled out side to the parking lot. 9 out of 20 were arrested the rest had scattered. Had no video footage as there were no cameras and the outside ones didn't have night vision. The next day the owners ended up buying a can system.

The 8 of us working Security were all bleeding and swollen. I ended up with two broken fingers from being stepped on and a dislocated shoulder with a torn rotor cup.

It was like a Royal rumble man . It was wild.

It was the last gig I worked. I have problems with my shoulder popping out still because of it. It was a second Job to make a little extra cash not what I wanted to do as I already had a day job.
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If you were going to do one, why not do them all?
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:57 PM   #123
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If you were going to do one, why not do them all?
I honestly didn't read it over that well.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:50 PM   #124
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Should LPO's have this power? Its essentially licensing a private police force. Now its far cheaper to have undertrained and poorly paid (relative to the police) deal with these types of crimes but it definately will lead to cases like this.
All they can do is detain you and wait for the police to come. They can only do this if they personally witness the theft and are 100% positive of the situation. Some places don't even allow seeing it on the camera as a justifiable reason to detain you, has to be in person. Now people (not you specifically) are suggesting they shouldn't even have the 'power' to defend themselves when attacked?

This wasn't a full video, it's not like they ran up and attacked the guy. They would have asked him to return to the store, and when the suspect realized he didn't have a choice, he got violent. Their methods were a little bush league (obviously not a clean take down) but they got the job done.
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