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Old 07-17-2014, 12:15 PM   #141
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seriously man, that's not how things work. Most news stations are only reporting allegations that it was shot down, the POTUS isn't going to claim it.
Really, world leaders have spoken out already, Obama looks weak again, he needed to come out with a strong statement. That is how things work!!!
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Really and the clueless idiot in the White House is the man they need at this time? I mean come on, history will look back at Reagan as one of the best leaders of the free world, if you think otherwise you are welcome to your opinion but I think otherwise!
So again, I ask, what do you suggest?
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:16 PM   #143
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This requires a strong response, no matter if it was a "mistake" by the rebels or not. Point is that these rebels have been supplied with equipment that not even the most hardened Islamic Militant group have. These missiles came from the Russian military and as such Russia should be slapped immediately with very harsh sanctions(cripple the Russian economy and make the people turn on their "great leader" and yes NATO should be looking to get fully involved here. This is unacceptable in any form or matter, Russia has been playing this game for far too long and it is time for a leader of the western world to stand up! Where is Reagan when you need him?
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Really, world leaders have spoken out already, Obama looks weak again, he needed to come out with a strong statement. That is how things work!!!
Links?

Or sorry, I guess the strong statement would be "Links!!!!"
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This requires a strong response, no matter if it was a "mistake" by the rebels or not. Point is that these rebels have been supplied with equipment that not even the most hardened Islamic Militant group have. These missiles came from the Russian military and as such Russia should be slapped immediately with very harsh sanctions(cripple the Russian economy and make the people turn on their "great leader" and yes NATO should be looking to get fully involved here. This is unacceptable in any form or matter, Russia has been playing this game for far too long and it is time for a leader of the western world to stand up! Where is Reagan when you need him?
Before you go ahead suggesting that NATO should start WWIII over this incident, do you have definitive proof for the bolded part of your post? Or even definitive proof that it was the pro-Russian rebels who shot down the airliner?
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@grasswire: #Ukraine MoD is confirming to multiple media outlets that it has "evidence" Russian SAM shot down #MH17 B777, and will be sharing it.

@MillerMENA: Journalist Claims They Saw Separatists With a Buk SAM System http://t.co/VDKrbLRwee

@patrickdehahn: AP: Photo of the wreckage of #MH17 passenger flight in east Ukraine http://t.co/FCrjdq5i2Z
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This is unbelievable and unacceptable. These poor people. What is going on?

I think the real issue is the Americans, Obama, is to soft and needs to assert himself. Wether you like it or not, they're a super power that needs to step in these situations. Should have never allowed Russia to invade Ukraine. Same with a few other countries like France and Britain. How can they just sit and watch and do nothing? People always go on about the Nazis and WWII but nothings changed and it 's even worse.

Nobody did nothing in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Israel and now this to name a few. How many people have died and are still dying?

Peace in the world is nothing but a pipe dream and anyone is dreaming if you don't believe it takes the U.S to step in and hold the peace.

I truly believe we're very close to a nuclear bomb and warfare, Putin is a monster for one.
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Really, world leaders have spoken out already, Obama looks weak again, he needed to come out with a strong statement. That is how things work!!!
What leader from a serious country has claimed it was shot down?

Sweden? ... neutral Sweden?

Leave the Obama #### out of this thread.
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So again, I ask, what do you suggest?
I've already stated what needs to be done, very strong sanctions that have a serious bite behind them, cripple their economy. Don't just sit there and hit a few banks and a few insiders, hit them hard.

NATO, should get involved as Western People have been lost, including 23 from the States.
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Hey lanny9...At least Obama didn't look stunned and continue to read to the children.
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Wow the investigation hasn't even begun and already its Russia's fault? Lets not jump to conclusions.
Says the guy who is jumping to conclusions about us jumping to conclusions.
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This is unbelievable and unacceptable. These poor people. What is going on?

I think the real issue is the Americans, Obama, is to soft and needs to assert himself. Wether you like it or not, they're a super power that needs to step in these situations. Should have never allowed Russia to invade Ukraine. Same with a few other countries like France and Britain. How can they just sit and watch and do nothing? People always go on about the Nazis and WWII but nothings changed and it 's even worse.

Nobody did nothing in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Israel and now this to name a few. How many people have died and are still dying?

Peace in the world is nothing but a pipe dream and anyone is dreaming if you don't believe it takes the U.S to step in and hold the peace.

I truly believe we're very close to a nuclear bomb and warfare, Putin is a monster for one.

OMG........

I really want to know what you and lanny9 think should be done?
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NATO, should get involved as Western People have been lost, including 23 from the States.

go on.
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OMG........

I really want to know what you and lanny9 think should be done?
"Serious" sanctions. That is the strong statement lanny9 is looking for.
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Before you go ahead suggesting that NATO should start WWIII over this incident, do you have definitive proof for the bolded part of your post? Or even definitive proof that it was the pro-Russian rebels who shot down the airliner?
Of course I don't but I can guarantee the CIA and other spy agencies do. This will not start WWIII, but requires a strong response, not the crap that Obama just put out.
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Nobody did nothing in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Israel and now this to name a few. How many people have died and are still dying?

My OCD is kicking in . . . .
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Of course I don't but I can guarantee the CIA and other spy agencies do. This will not start WWIII, but requires a strong response, not the crap that Obama just put out.

Why?
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This is unbelievable and unacceptable. These poor people. What is going on?

I think the real issue is the Americans, Obama, is to soft and needs to assert himself. Wether you like it or not, they're a super power that needs to step in these situations. Should have never allowed Russia to invade Ukraine. Same with a few other countries like France and Britain. How can they just sit and watch and do nothing? People always go on about the Nazis and WWII but nothings changed and it 's even worse.

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Obama is soft because the U.S. is soft right now due to being exhausted (economically and militarily) from fighting 2 wars in the past 10 years.
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