Brad Treliving To Address Media at 2 PM.

[SHOGUN]

Treliving seemed bummed at the conference that he didn't sign Cammy.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Treliving seemed bummed at the conference that he didn't sign Cammy.

To me it seemed like he knew for a while that it wasn't going to happen.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

We replaced stempniak with Raymond


We did not find a replacement for Camallerri

Yet. It's only July 1st & there are still options out there.

http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents/

Maybe something can be done via trade, or Treliving is counting on scoring contributions from Sven/Johnny/Markus. He keeps mentioning the small, young, skilled guys and has added a lot of toughness to keep them safe.

[GreenLantern2814]

I like that Brad brought up the origins of our two more controversial additions. Bollig and Engelland have had front row seats with two of the best organizations in the NHL. They have first-hand experience seeing what guys like Crosby Toews Kane and Malkin do to prepare to win championships.

I've often thought one of the more under-rated ways to build a franchise is to fill up the bottom six forwards and third pairing D with guys who come from championship environments. Maybe you pay more for a slightly lesser player in a vacuum, but these guys have been a part of the ultimate goal. There is no downside to supplementing your depth with guys who have their name on the Stanley Cup.

[Bunk]

Hopefully Johnny Hockey will take the #13 jersey

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Yeah, and we still need a goalie for Adirondack and maybe another for depth.

Didn't they sign that Carr guy late in the season? He was just under AHL contract though. I believed he was a senior at some NCAA team.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by OzSome

Didn't they sign that Carr guy late in the season? He was just under AHL contract though. I believed he was a senior at some NCAA team.

Carr was only signed on an ATO (Amateur Try-Out) which expired when the season ended. He played for UMass-Lowell.

It's probably not out of the question that he would get an AHL Flames camp invite and perhaps offered a SPC (Standard Players Contract) which is just an AHL level contract.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

We did not find a replacement for Camallerri

Johnny Gaudreau. And yes I'm totally serious.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Fire

Johnny Gaudreau. And yes I'm totally serious.

I'd bet Johnny hockey has enough fire in his belly to avoid 1 g in 14 games and 1g 1a in 12 game stretches in the same year.

Adios Cammy. You only played well when panicking about your future earning ability. Off you go

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I'd bet Johnny hockey has enough fire in his belly to avoid 1 g in 14 games and 1g 1a in 12 game stretches in the same year.

If Gaudreau makes the Flames' roster out of training camp, it won't surprise me to see him have a drought like that in March or thereabouts. In fact, I'd be surprised if he didn't falter down the stretch, as a first-year pro who has never played an 82-game schedule before.

But you're right, it certainly won't be because Gaudreau lacks fire in his belly. It will be because he lacks gas in his tank.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

Yeah we might not score any goals this year. But that's okay, I am not expecting much from this year and getting another top prospect next draft is fine by me.

Why? Of the 209 goals scored last year, players that are still Flames property put up 150 of them. You lose 26 from Cammalleri, but add 19 from Raymond. Lose 5 from Westgarth but add 7 from Bollig. Lose 2 from Butler but add 6 from Engelland. So you're back to about even. Then you have the progression of all the young guys.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Why? Of the 209 goals scored last year, players that are still Flames property put up 150 of them. You lose 26 from Cammalleri, but add 19 from Raymond. Lose 5 from Westgarth but add 7 from Bollig. Lose 2 from Butler but add 6 from Engelland. So you're back to about even. Then you have the progression of all the young guys.

It really doesn't work like that though. Raymond, Bollig, and Engelland were likely helped a bit by playing with better players than they will here. Some players may regress and some progress. Most will be flat I suspect. I really think we get less goals this year

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Some players may regress and some progress. Most will be flat I suspect. I really think we get less goals this year

That's assuming that no rookies make the team and contribute. I find that a highly questionable assumption.

[djsFlames]

I think Gaudreau will produce around 0.75 PPG in his rookie season. A rough estimate going by how he was over a PPG at the WCs and 2 PPG in the NCAA, I think he can produce near a MacKinnon pace. He's so consistent, and while I don't expect him to produce at a point per game pace because it's difficult to achieve for any player, he'll still produce well north of Monahan and Baertschi, who were just shy of 0.5 PPG.

That'll replace Cammalleri's offense and more if the team allows him to play the year and he goes on a tear.

If Gaudreau plays, Monahan improves, and Raymond proves to be a good signing, as well as the added truculence of Wolf, Bollig and Engelland, and Hiller between the pipes, this team could legitimately make a jump in the standings from last season. The work ethic and energy has to carry over, though, in order for it to happen. It'll be a by committee effort to win more games than we lose.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

It really doesn't work like that though. Raymond, Bollig, and Engelland were likely helped a bit by playing with better players than they will here. Some players may regress and some progress. Most will be flat I suspect. I really think we get less goals this year

Maybe more, maybe less. I liked a comment in another thread which spoke about the difference between singular isolated players vs a team.

IMO, we are icing a very unique team next year. One that I feel may even be tighter than last year. Sure, we may have a "lower quality" crew this year, but I feel like the synergies from the team will play a huge factor in the production.

I feel like if we only feed our "star player", it's easy for the other team to shut down that player and nullify our attack. But if we have a mandate to pass to anyone open, the spread of the goals and randomness makes us a really tough and frustrating team to play against. Imagine the confusion some of the teams may face if McGrattan, Bollig or Engelland makes 4-6 shots during a game then nothing the next as they protect the kids while they Gatling gun shots at the opposing team. (Not necessarily saying it will happen though)

I feel this may aid our durability as well as any team cannot focus on a single player consistently during a night and not open themselves up to a dangerous goal scoring situation, or a fist to the face. (One can hope, right?)

Random comment, I personally am leaning towards calling this Treliving's team because of how quiet Burke is. Anyone have reasons for saying it's still more Burke than Treliving? I'm curious to what they may be.

[Tinordi]

I'm starting to remember what a professionally run organization looks like.

[Enoch Root]

Obviously Raymond doesn't replace Cammy but look at it this way:

Cammalleri: 26 G
Glencross: 12G

This year I would expect something like:

Glencross: 22 - 25 G
Raymond: 13 - 16 G

[Flames Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Fire

Johnny Gaudreau. And yes I'm totally serious.

I severely doubt he will play with the big team this year. He's going straight to Adirondack. He needs more mass and experience in pro. God where is M. St. Louis when you need a proper mentor and conditioning coach? I'm not convinced he's ready for the 82 game grind at his age. I'm patient enough to let him progress in the AHL first.

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan in Exile

I severely doubt he will play with the big team this year. He's going straight to Adirondack. He needs more mass and experience in pro. God where is M. St. Louis when you need a proper mentor and conditioning coach? I'm not convinced he's ready for the 82 game grind at his age. I'm patient enough to let him progress in the AHL first.

He was too small to play for Calgary

[Rick M.]

I suspect he'll get a good look in training camp but in addition to his physical readiness, the question will be whether he needs time in the AHL to learn the Flames' defensive systems.