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Old 06-23-2014, 10:16 AM   #1621
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Carbon gives very little warning before it breaks, whereas alum will usually show signs of cracking before failure.

so how skinny are those rims? seems kind of silly to me to have a bike with a fork with 3 incehs of travel and then lighten it up with skinny tires which will mean the bike becomes a pathway cruiser.

Of course you could always swap out rims if you ever want to hit the trails.

How much are the rims?
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:17 PM   #1622
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Carbon gives very little warning before it breaks, whereas alum will usually show signs of cracking before failure.

so how skinny are those rims? seems kind of silly to me to have a bike with a fork with 3 incehs of travel and then lighten it up with skinny tires which will mean the bike becomes a pathway cruiser.

Of course you could always swap out rims if you ever want to hit the trails.

How much are the rims?
I never got that either. After all the rider of a cycle is much heavier. If riders are worried about the weight its cheaper to cut the riders weight down.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:49 PM   #1623
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^ Hey are you calling me fat???

Aftermarket car rims are a billion dollar industry. It's not always about weight/performance/MPG when rollin' on dubs.

^^Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't priced them out, I don't really think it matters in this case. I can't see carbon wheels costing more than a whole separate road bike (for which I have no room anyways).
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^ Hey are you calling me fat???

Aftermarket car rims are a billion dollar industry. It's not always about weight/performance/MPG when rollin' on dubs.

^^Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't priced them out, I don't really think it matters in this case. I can't see carbon wheels costing more than a whole separate road bike (for which I have no room anyways).
No I'm not calling you fat. Lol. I get people like aftermarket parts. I do to. I didn't know if its an aesthetics or a weight reason. I get the reasoning for people wanting a beautiful bike.
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^ Hey are you calling me fat???

Aftermarket car rims are a billion dollar industry. It's not always about weight/performance/MPG when rollin' on dubs.

^^Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't priced them out, I don't really think it matters in this case. I can't see carbon wheels costing more than a whole separate road bike (for which I have no room anyways).
Lol, you are in for a shock.

Wheelsets are the single priciest component in high end bikes. Even $5000 carbon road bikes usually use barely mid-range aluminum wheel sets.

A decent carbon wheel set sets you back around $3000

http://www.jensonusa.com/Mavic-Cosmi...-Wheelset-2014.

Hand built, custom tubular sets could hit $10k not so long ago, but with carbon prices coming down in recent years, you would probably max out around $5-6k for a top end set.
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Lol, you are in for a shock.

Wheelsets are the single priciest component in high end bikes. Even $5000 carbon road bikes usually use barely mid-range aluminum wheel sets.

A decent carbon wheel set sets you back around $3000

http://www.jensonusa.com/Mavic-Cosmi...-Wheelset-2014.

Hand built, custom tubular sets could hit $10k not so long ago, but with carbon prices coming down in recent years, you would probably max out around $5-6k for a top end set.
...and, with that, you just changed the uninformed opinion of this fat-ass novice. Couple grand I can digest... but $6k, $10k are numbers that will take you golfing in the Monterrey peninsula for a week. Does not compute in terms of bike wheels.

What about ebay sellers like carbonzone? Good ratings.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:17 PM   #1627
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Chain Reaction had carbon Havens on for just over a grand this spring I think. That is CHEAP for carbon mountain rims.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:19 PM   #1628
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LOL I found this bit of ancient bike gimmickery hilarious and makes me want to try it:


Chinese are still trying to sell it as a new innovation, replete with images of stand in white people and stock shots of western countries in an effort to show western investors/respectability:

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...and, with that, you just changed the uninformed opinion of this fat-ass novice. Couple grand I can digest... but $6k, $10k are numbers that will take you golfing in the Monterrey peninsula for a week. Does not compute in terms of bike wheels.

What about ebay sellers like carbonzone? Good ratings.
i googled this name and there is a lot of chatter out there on various cycling boards about these rims - nobody seems to say they are great or terrible.

are you buying them for thier looks, or are you looking to drop a few grams off of your bikes weight?

personally, unless I have losts of coin to spend on rims, I'd stay away. I'd just go with alum rims - but that being said I am a bigger guy and somewhat leary of carbon fiber.......
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LOL I found this bit of ancient bike gimmickery hilarious and makes me want to try it:
That's wild. I was just contemplating such a mechanism about a week ago, wondering how to engineer a bike that used something closer to a stair-master-type motion rather than the usual full rotation associated with pedaling. It's so weird to see (only a few days later) that someone's already done that. It's pretty much exactly what I'd been thinking about, and actually seems to work pretty well.

Somehow though, I have a feeling that I haven't missed out on millions of bucks with this one.

Would still love to try it.
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bunny hopped my first garter snake of the season riding home yesterday. A sure sign of summer.
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I've been riding my hybrid as much as possible. Butt still bruising after a good ride, hopefully I will get adjusted, as I already bought an aftermarket seat. I had a good 15.5km day in fishcreek, just jumping in and out of the trees and paths, following by only about 2km a day for the days after (tolerance of butt).

Feels good to be out again.
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Rode the Branch Out bike tour this past weekend. My wife was sandbagging it and killed me on the king of the mountain. She's really annoying. She tore her should in a crash last spring and didn't ride till this spring only going a couple of times. I think I have ridden more than 1000km more than her this past year. She ends up 6th for women in the king of the mountain and beat me by 7 minutes.
Regardless of the gloating I had to endure, I had an awesome weekend. Such a fun event.

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Rode the Branch Out bike tour this past weekend. My wife was sandbagging it and killed me on the king of the mountain. She's really annoying. She tore her should in a crash last spring and didn't ride till this spring only going a couple of times. I think I have ridden more than 1000km more than her this past year. She ends up 6th for women in the king of the mountain and beat me by 7 minutes.
Regardless, of the gloating I had to endure, I had an awesome weekend. Such a fun event.
Last summer I was biking in Oliver in Wine Country with my girlfriend. I'm usually quite a bit faster, and so there were several points where I would just coast and wait for her to catch up. On the way back to Osoyoos there are several steep hills. I had to stand up off my saddle just to get up the hills. She would blow right by me, sitting down. When it flattened out I'd catch up and pass her, but the next hill she'd zoom by me, as I was gasping for air in 30 degree heat. I'll be doing that route again this coming weekend, and am hoping to perform better on the hills.
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That's wild. I was just contemplating such a mechanism about a week ago, wondering how to engineer a bike that used something closer to a stair-master-type motion rather than the usual full rotation associated with pedaling. It's so weird to see (only a few days later) that someone's already done that. It's pretty much exactly what I'd been thinking about, and actually seems to work pretty well.

Somehow though, I have a feeling that I haven't missed out on millions of bucks with this one.

Would still love to try it.
Apparently millions of bucks was spent developing and marketing this in the 70s already (sites report trade shows with models in 70s lycra pedalling to disco beats) but it failed to catch on.
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That's wild. I was just contemplating such a mechanism about a week ago, wondering how to engineer a bike that used something closer to a stair-master-type motion rather than the usual full rotation associated with pedaling. It's so weird to see (only a few days later) that someone's already done that. It's pretty much exactly what I'd been thinking about, and actually seems to work pretty well.

Somehow though, I have a feeling that I haven't missed out on millions of bucks with this one.

Would still love to try it.
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^^ I can't imagine cranking out a hill on one of those.
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A guy rode the branch out tour on one of those last year. I don't think he made it up the hill, but he did go down from Panorama and around Lake Windemere
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Chain Reaction had carbon Havens on for just over a grand this spring I think. That is CHEAP for carbon mountain rims.
Was just going to suggest chain reaction. It looks like they are having a 50% of wheels sale.
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Whew, I was sort of relieved to see that the race face turbine rims that I really want for my rig were not on sale.......
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