Condo - Tenant/Neighbour harassment

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GGG

Find something he does that no one else does, Change your bylaws to prohibit it. Fine him for breaching the bylaws.

Outside of that false police reports and complaints at some point has to constiture harassment.

Sorry, you want him to get Edson to change their bylaws to address his issue or am I reading this wrong?


Sorry, it just hit me, you were talking about Condo Bylaws.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Sample00

OHH, how we've tried to find something..anything...like i said, the guy is smart.

Our bylaws have this in there.

(d) adhere to, comply with, an strictly observe this by-law and all rules, regulations, by-laws, and resolutions, in respect of the us of, either or both, his unit and the common property, and in so doing, each owner shall:

(iii) not use his unite (or any building thereon) or permit or cause the unit to be permitted, to be used in any manner for any purpose which is or may be illegal, injurious, or that may cause nuisance or hazard to any other owner or an occupier of any other unit.

Do you have anything like that in your by-laws? It sure sounds like he would be the nuisance part.

[Huntingwhale]

I used to have a neighbour who did the same thing to me. She would complain when my tv was on volume 8. She would complain when I walked in my kitchen, that it was too loud. She complained when I had the radio on when I was studying for a final exam.

One day I decided to have a halloween party at my place and about 25 people showed up. She moved out 2 days later.

Have a big party, assert your dominance.

[nik-]

So ... how many non incident calls does it take before the police give the neighbour a warning?

I mean c-c-c-come .... on.

[CaptainYooh]

Based on the information provided by OP, the only sensible option remaining is to issue a Statement of Claim suing the neighbour for harassment and financial damages, both of which should be relatively easy to prove. I do not recommend wasting your energy on running around with a book of By-Laws in your hands and exacerbating the situation. SoC is cheap and could be very effective in preventing your neighbour from further attacks on you and your tenants, especially, when they realize that they could be on the hook for some significant financial damages.

I suggest that you contact killer_carlson, who is a member of CP. He is a condominium lawyer with Willis Law in Edmonton and he should be able to either help you with this or point you in a right direction.

Here's a link to his website:[wrong link deleted] Correct link: http://www.willislaw.ca/

[Burninator]

I can't believe the police "have" to keep responding to their calls. It's like legal harassment through the police.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Based on the information provided by OP, the only sensible option remaining is to issue a Statement of Claim suing the neighbour for harassment and financial damages, both of which should be relatively easy to prove. I do not recommend wasting your energy on running around with a book of By-Laws in your hands and exacerbating the situation. SoC is cheap and could be very effective in preventing your neighbour from further attacks on you and your tenants, especially, when they realize that they could be on the hook for some significant financial damages.

I suggest that you contact killer_carlson, who is a member of CP. He is a condominium lawyer with Willis Law in Edmonton and he should be able to either help you with this or point you in a right direction.

Here's a link to his website: http://www.wwplc.com/

I'm assuming he's Hugh?

[CaptainYooh]

Yep.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Based on the information provided by OP, the only sensible option remaining is to issue a Statement of Claim suing the neighbour for harassment and financial damages, both of which should be relatively easy to prove. I do not recommend wasting your energy on running around with a book of By-Laws in your hands and exacerbating the situation. SoC is cheap and could be very effective in preventing your neighbour from further attacks on you and your tenants, especially, when they realize that they could be on the hook for some significant financial damages.

I suggest that you contact killer_carlson, who is a member of CP. He is a condominium lawyer with Willis Law in Edmonton and he should be able to either help you with this or point you in a right direction.

Here's a link to his website: http://www.wwplc.com/

That's a Michigan based law firm

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Based on the information provided by OP, the only sensible option remaining is to issue a Statement of Claim suing the neighbour for harassment and financial damages, both of which should be relatively easy to prove. I do not recommend wasting your energy on running around with a book of By-Laws in your hands and exacerbating the situation. SoC is cheap and could be very effective in preventing your neighbour from further attacks on you and your tenants, especially, when they realize that they could be on the hook for some significant financial damages.

I suggest that you contact killer_carlson, who is a member of CP. He is a condominium lawyer with Willis Law in Edmonton and he should be able to either help you with this or point you in a right direction.

Here's a link to his website: http://www.wwplc.com/

Originally Posted by nik-

That's a Michigan based law firm

http://www.willislaw.ca/

[CaptainYooh]

LOL, yes, wrong link copied. Here's the correct one: http://www.willislaw.ca/

[photon]

Thanks CaptainYooh I wondered if something like that was a possibility. I had something similar where a tenant of mine and a neighbour got off on the wrong foot or something and he (the neighbour) would call me and yell at me about them having too many cars (they had no more than him), the quality of their cars, how they did things, everything. He video taped them, my tenants were actually afraid of the guy. He was trying to sell the house and was saying she was making it more difficult to sell (ignoring the other people on the street that had more cars or worse ones).

It was so weird too, he was super nice up to that point.

It only went away when he sold the house, they get along great with the new neighbours.

Frustrating when people decide to be problems but seemingly nothing can be done about it.

OP if you go the SoC route please share how that went, I'm very interested.

[CaptainYooh]

I hate needing to resort to litigation but when all good faith efforts are exhausted, this often becomes the only option, unfortunately. As I implied in my earlier post, a Statement of Claim is nothing but a legal threat telling the other party that you're serious about the dispute and do not wish to tolerate their behaviour any longer. More often than not this is enough to change the offensive behaviour.

[Sample00]

I've placed the call to Willis Law. I'll report back in my discussions with Hugh.

Greatly appreciate it, gang.

[Hack&Lube]

Thanks, keep us updated as to how this pans out as this situation can happen to all of us.

[Regular_John]

Isn't this the point where Troutman tells us to not discuss pending legal cases in a public forum?

[I-Hate-Hulse]

CaptainYooh's advice is great, but I'd also take some steps in regard to your next tenant. The SoC will take this feud to the next level and I have a feeling they won't just turtle over a "legal letter".

This is not a condo issue, but a "there's a dbag" for a neighbor issue unfortunately. It's out of the Board's hands.

What's their beef with the previous tenant? Was it because he's a renter? Knowing that would help in selecting your next tenant. Try and find someone that they won't be able to intimidate if possible - a police officer would be great. Hell, drop your rent to get one in there if you have to. Sound like you have a landlord's market there - you might want to come forth with potential renters as to what to expect. You should be able to get someone in a tight market that's not opposed to dealing with that situation.

Tapout wearing, 6'6" scary looking mofo with neat tendencies would be your dream tenant.

[Northendzone]

[QUOTE=undercoverbrother;4812252]Have you spoken to the Board or other neighbours in the complex?


I don't think you have any recourse, but it also doesn't sound like you will have any problems filling the place with that vacany rate.


I would hunt for a Jacked Up, Tap Out, Truck Balls renter next time.....[/QUOTE]

in edson? you might find a metal mulisha guy, maybe

[burn_this_city]

Its crazy that people do this stuff. Calling the police 20 times for nothing is harassment, plain and simple. The fact the cops tolerate that repetitive crap surprises me.

[burnin_vernon]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Its crazy that people do this stuff. Calling the police 20 times for nothing is harassment, plain and simple. The fact the cops tolerate that repetitive crap surprises me.

If police ever respond to a call that turns out to be completely unwarranted/unnecessary, they should be able to bill the complainant for their time. These pathetic busybodies are not only costing us tax dollars, they are tying up the police for potentially dangerous real emergencies.