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Old 06-10-2014, 08:30 PM   #4501
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Such a minor thing, but the airport code invasion really bugs. Why on earth do you have to refer to Vancouver as YVR here? YYC this, YYC that. Drives me crazy.

It bugs me too because the codes aren't common knowledge outside of their respective cities. I know Vancouver is YVR and Toronto is YYZ, but that's pretty much it. The biggest problem is they're not intuitive. When I see YEG I think Winnipeg and not Edmonton.

Hopefully it's a fad that will end soon.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:30 PM   #4502
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Such a minor thing, but the airport code invasion really bugs. Why on earth do you have to refer to Vancouver as YVR here? YYC this, YYC that. Drives me crazy.




It's never really bothered me, but whenever someone uses it in a sentence, it always comes off as kind of mechanical and unnatural. Like you're trying a little hard, in a way, to show you know what that is.

Same people who say, out loud, in conversation, "BRB" or "LOL"! Sorry airport people, you're kind of like those people.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:31 PM   #4503
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she probably got the same comment a dozen times which is why she said it. She might have even been joking with you
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That honestly made me laugh. But no, unfortunately I can't use that excuse for today. My tolerance for BS and people pissing me off has been considerably short the past two weeks, and my temper is getting the best of me today.


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I only watched the first minute but bang on. A good friend braved my very bad mood and came over with my favorite beer (God bless her heart). It helped the bad mood. It's not helping the studying and not helping the situation because now I have enough liquid courage in me to send a very angry rant via text that would not go over well.
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I only watched the first minute but bang on. A good friend braved my very bad mood and came over with my favorite beer (God bless her heart). It helped the bad mood. It's not helping the studying and not helping the situation because nowI have enough liquid courage in me to send a very angry rant via text that would not go over well.
Are you aware you double? A friend of mine owns a few horses and is not the type of person you would want to mess with. She sometimes has that look that if daggers could come out of her eyes you would be dead.
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The onus is on the driver who wants to switch lanes to make the adjustment, not everyone else. This isn't a merge, where all parties have be aware. You should treat switching lanes like a yield sign. Many times I have seen people stop, or slow, their cars to let people in who have yields.
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I still say the onus should be on the person merging and not me on the road driving along. If he gets caught with no lane left, then I'll take precautions to help him, but he easily could have merged using his head.
You guys are part of the problem in this city. I have noticed ever since moving here that Calgarians seem to have a pathological aversion to letting people into their lane. If I were to list the top ten things that bug me about this city, this particular driving behaviour would be one of them. The majority - not just a few - drivers, if they see someone trying to get into their lane, will aggressively attempt to get in front of that person rather than slowing down for a half a second to let them in easily. This is not only a dick move, it encourages equally aggressive lane changes - it seems like in traffic I actually have to force my way in at an awkward angle and block off a car in order to get into another lane. This was rarely necessary before I moved here.

Leaving a gap to allow a lane change is basically the easiest thing you'll do during your entire commute - it involves slowing down slightly for a second. That's it. You are not massively inconvenienced by this action, but it makes life much, much easier on the person who usually isn't undertaking a lane change just for the fun of it; they need to be there. It's a small thing to do that other people appreciate - one of the few situations where you'll get a wave of thanks out of another driver.

Searching the MVA for a section you can come up with a convoluted interpretation of to justify your discourtesy is sort of sad. You don't need to be a lawyer to figure this out, just be thoughtful and generally decent to other drivers and everything will go much more smoothly.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:33 AM   #4508
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You guys are part of the problem in this city. I have noticed ever since moving here that Calgarians seem to have a pathological aversion to letting people into their lane. If I were to list the top ten things that bug me about this city, this particular driving behaviour would be one of them. The majority - not just a few - drivers, if they see someone trying to get into their lane, will aggressively attempt to get in front of that person rather than slowing down for a half a second to let them in easily. This is not only a dick move, it encourages equally aggressive lane changes - it seems like in traffic I actually have to force my way in at an awkward angle and block off a car in order to get into another lane. This was rarely necessary before I moved here.

Leaving a gap to allow a lane change is basically the easiest thing you'll do during your entire commute - it involves slowing down slightly for a second. That's it. You are not massively inconvenienced by this action, but it makes life much, much easier on the person who usually isn't undertaking a lane change just for the fun of it; they need to be there. It's a small thing to do that other people appreciate - one of the few situations where you'll get a wave of thanks out of another driver.

Searching the MVA for a section you can come up with a convoluted interpretation of to justify your discourtesy is sort of sad. You don't need to be a lawyer to figure this out, just be thoughtful and generally decent to other drivers and everything will go much more smoothly.
Oh. You're back.

I wasn't aggressively cutting him off. I was going with the flow of traffic. He was a struggler that was trying to beat the system. They don't need to be in the other lane. They took a risk, got caught, and now can suffer the HUGE consequence of having to wait one minute. Why should an entire lane of cars have to wait for one person. Why are 20 people's time less valuable than 1 person weaving in and out of traffic?

I didn't search for a convoluted interpretation. I'm not a lawyer. I read the act like a reasonable person. It's pretty black and white. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that if there is a car where you want to go, you wait until that car is gone before you try and get that space. The problem is the guys who think weaving in and out of lanes, with little regard for others' safety, just so they can be home 3 minutes earlier. That's not my problem. If there's a gap behind me, go there. Just because you want to change lanes, doesn't mean everyone else has to go out of their way for you. If you want to change lanes, find a safe opening and go then.
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That's the problem. If people would just display some basic courtesy on a consistent basis, finding a safe opening would be relatively easy. Instead, many people (apparently yourself included) deliberately avoid leaving those openings for no reason other than "This is MY lane and I don't want someone else to be in front of me". As a result, and not infrequently, if you were waiting for a gap big enough to allow a lane change in the normal course, you'd never change lanes. As Ken, I think, originally noted.

The justification of "oh but he's a struggler" is a reach. You have no idea how someone drives based on how they change lanes and the vast majority of drivers are not these mythical "strugglers" you speak of. What does that even mean? I get it in the winter, when people don't have snow tires and don't know how to handle weather, but in the summer? Incompetent drivers are outnumbered 10 to 1 by jerks with a sense of entitlement. You are not better than other people simply because you've made a unilateral judgment on their driving abilities and this does not entitle you to drive aggressively because you can't be bothered with them.

I am a lawyer, and always find the attempts to armchair-lawyer in this thread amusing because they're usually wrong. 15(2) for example is intended for a situation where you're pulling off of a curb lane, not changing lanes in traffic. That said, the strict rules of motor vehicle legislation aside, just... don't be a dick. This is easy, it causes no real inconvenience to you (or the 20 people behind you) to slow down for literally a few seconds, and it makes life significantly easier on the person trying to merge.

There are always exceptions - guys who change out of a lane where cars are lined up (i.e. to turn right, or for an exit, or whatever), then drive to the front of the line and merge back in should be first against the wall when CP finally rises up. There are the guys who constantly need to change lanes because "that one must be faster than this one". But they're few and far between and are not a justification for being an ass on the other, ordinary course situations.
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Oh. You're back.

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Yeah what happened with that?
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Made the mistake of swearing at someone in a thread; edited my post to fix it within a couple of minutes but a mod had already seen it so I was in the sin bin for a bit. Mea culpa.
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You guys are part of the problem in this city. I have noticed ever since moving here that Calgarians seem to have a pathological aversion to letting people into their lane. If I were to list the top ten things that bug me about this city, this particular driving behaviour would be one of them. The majority - not just a few - drivers, if they see someone trying to get into their lane, will aggressively attempt to get in front of that person rather than slowing down for a half a second to let them in easily. This is not only a dick move, it encourages equally aggressive lane changes - it seems like in traffic I actually have to force my way in at an awkward angle and block off a car in order to get into another lane. This was rarely necessary before I moved here.

Leaving a gap to allow a lane change is basically the easiest thing you'll do during your entire commute - it involves slowing down slightly for a second. That's it. You are not massively inconvenienced by this action, but it makes life much, much easier on the person who usually isn't undertaking a lane change just for the fun of it; they need to be there. It's a small thing to do that other people appreciate - one of the few situations where you'll get a wave of thanks out of another driver.

Searching the MVA for a section you can come up with a convoluted interpretation of to justify your discourtesy is sort of sad. You don't need to be a lawyer to figure this out, just be thoughtful and generally decent to other drivers and everything will go much more smoothly.
Hate to tell you dude but I doubt I'm the problem in Calgary since I don't live there.

If I see someone speeding up to merge or slowing down for the matter I will do my best to help them out appropriately. Otherwise, if they are just being a struggler, well screw 'em. Not my problem they can't drive and merge.

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When driving on Calgary roads, I take the advice someone once gave me when I was 15.

"My signal light isn't a question light, it's a warning light."

I move over. I push myself right in where I need to go. Do I push a car over? No, but if the room is just enough and it's more logical for them to slow down slightly to widen the gap a little bit instead of me slowing down quite a bit and waiting for a different gap, well, I just start moving on over.

It's not to be rude necessarily, but as 19Yeezy said, people have some weird aversion to letting other people in here.
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Such a minor thing, but the airport code invasion really bugs. Why on earth do you have to refer to Vancouver as YVR here? YYC this, YYC that. Drives me crazy.
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It bugs me too because the codes aren't common knowledge outside of their respective cities. I know Vancouver is YVR and Toronto is YYZ, but that's pretty much it. The biggest problem is they're not intuitive. When I see YEG I think Winnipeg and not Edmonton.

Hopefully it's a fad that will end soon.
It bugs me sometimes as well and it seems mostly like a Canadian thing. I never see people referring to LA as LAX or Chicago as ORD or London as LHR etc.
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It's not to be rude necessarily, but as 19Yeezy said, people have some weird aversion to letting other people in here.
I tend to think that the aversion is due to drivers, particularly in the winter, not wanting to have their car sprayed with gravel by the car in front of them. The gap between one car and another isn't to allow someone else to merge into it; it is to keep the rock debris that gets kicked out by the car ahead from wacking the car behind.

If you can keep someone from getting in front of you, you stand a better chance of not having your windshield pocked and hammered by flying gravel. Thus the need/desire to keep people from letting someone into one's lane.
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When driving on Calgary roads, I take the advice someone once gave me when I was 15.

"My signal light isn't a question light, it's a warning light."

I move over. I push myself right in where I need to go. Do I push a car over? No, but if the room is just enough and it's more logical for them to slow down slightly to widen the gap a little bit instead of me slowing down quite a bit and waiting for a different gap, well, I just start moving on over.

It's not to be rude necessarily, but as 19Yeezy said, people have some weird aversion to letting other people in here.
That's the one thing I loved when I drove a giant truck. I signal, then I start moving over. If you don't want to get out of the way..... This doesn't work so well driving a Sentra.
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That's the one thing I loved when I drove a giant truck. I signal, then I start moving over. If you don't want to get out of the way..... This doesn't work so well driving a Sentra.
This brings up another issue entirely with respect to the driving attitudes of a large proportion of the people who drive giant trucks in Calgary, but that's a story for another day.
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Haha people in Calgary struggle with merging in general. Ignoring when they treat a merge like a yeild, they don't signal, they don't give room to let you in, they don't wave when you let them in. I'm sure there is more but those are just off the top of my head.
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That's the one thing I loved when I drove a giant truck. I signal, then I start moving over. If you don't want to get out of the way..... This doesn't work so well driving a Sentra.
The ######bags with the jacked up trucks are my favorite drivers to irritate and annoy. I love seeing them get frustrated and lose their cool.
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The ######bags with the jacked up trucks are my favorite drivers to irritate and annoy. I love seeing them get frustrated and lose their cool.

I was just saying the other day that the roads in Alberta need more enraged D-bags.....
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