Me too. I love driving, and it seems less and less people agree as the years go by. Maybe it has to do with getting older. I'm 29 and still enjoy the feeling of being in control of a vehicle. Maybe that will change as I get into my 30's.
I enjoy driving, when I'm not going to and from work, running around doing errands, going halfway across the Province to Auburn Bay for dinner. I'd love to have a automated car for most of the things I have to do, and have a regular car that I'd use when I want to actually go driving.
Or I'd actually stop being a wussy and get a motorbike.
I can see the advantages in having a driver less car in some situations but the thing is I enjoy driving. It seems like many of you don't.
There will be racetracks in the future for you to drive on. It will become a recreational activity.
For me I like highway driving and would miss roads like the spray lakes gravel road. But take my keys as soon as possible if I never have to drive down mcleod again.
I'm gonna be that guy who doesn't do his own research and asks on CP instead, but for everyone saying "please take away my keys away" and saying you can't wait for a world with no human drivers; Am I out to lunch to think that no one on this forum will be driving anyways by the time we're in a driverless world? Or is it actually that close?
I get how far the technology has come, and that we'll likely see some driverless vehicles on the road at some point in the near/medium distant future. But we'll likely be in senior homes before this is how everyone gets around, no?
Me too. I love driving, and it seems less and less people agree as the years go by. Maybe it has to do with getting older. I'm 29 and still enjoy the feeling of being in control of a vehicle. Maybe that will change as I get into my 30's.
I'm 35 and you can pry my steering wheel from my cold dead hands. Except when I'm drunk. Then it'd be nice to have an autopilot.
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I enjoy driving, when I'm not going to and from work, running around doing errands, going halfway across the Province to Auburn Bay for dinner. I'd love to have a automated car for most of the things I have to do, and have a regular car that I'd use when I want to actually go driving.
Or I'd actually stop being a wussy and get a motorbike.
I'd get my driverless car to drive me to the moto-cross track so I could tear it up.
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I'm gonna be that guy who doesn't do his own research and asks on CP instead, but for everyone saying "please take away my keys away" and saying you can't wait for a world with no human drivers; Am I out to lunch to think that no one on this forum will be driving anyways by the time we're in a driverless world? Or is it actually that close?
I get how far the technology has come, and that we'll likely see some driverless vehicles on the road at some point in the near/medium distant future. But we'll likely be in senior homes before this is how everyone gets around, no?
I think it is one of those things that COULD gain traction but probably won't for awhile, and not because people don't want it.
But then again, maybe when we're all in our 70s, that'll be the new 50s, and we can pick up a sweet driverless mercillago or something.
One thing that I think is a potential marketing factor is having a driverless car programmed by different drivers to take you around a track. Sort of like a ride.
I'd love to have Mikka Hakkinen drive me around sometime just as co-pilot to experience what he does, but I probably won't ever get that chance. Auto-Pilot might be a fun way to experience that.
What happens to society when you largely take away the bull#### status symbol of cars.
Won't someone think of the auto manufacturers?!
You honestly don't think there will be seven seat beauties with alcantara leather seats, five 4G tv's and a full bar offered by Audi? And four bus seat, ugly ass crap mobiles still made by chevy? What does the status symbol aspect of personal transportation have to do with self driven/manual driven cars?
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I'm gonna be that guy who doesn't do his own research and asks on CP instead, but for everyone saying "please take away my keys away" and saying you can't wait for a world with no human drivers; Am I out to lunch to think that no one on this forum will be driving anyways by the time we're in a driverless world? Or is it actually that close?
I get how far the technology has come, and that we'll likely see some driverless vehicles on the road at some point in the near/medium distant future. But we'll likely be in senior homes before this is how everyone gets around, no?
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I think it is one of those things that COULD gain traction but probably won't for awhile, and not because people don't want it.
But then again, maybe when we're all in our 70s, that'll be the new 50s, and we can pick up a sweet driverless mercillago or something.
One thing that I think is a potential marketing factor is having a driverless car programmed by different drivers to take you around a track. Sort of like a ride.
I'd love to have Mikka Hakkinen drive me around sometime just as co-pilot to experience what he does, but I probably won't ever get that chance. Auto-Pilot might be a fun way to experience that.
I don't think a complete driverless society is near at all. It's going to be in increments first. Assisted driving is already here in many luxury cars, and it will increase until we hit a point where it's not so scary.
We already have automated gear shifting (Automatic Transmission), automated parking (Park Assist), blind spot warnings and now accident avoidance systems.
Here's a clip of a new one by Lexus:
It'll be the same type of technology adoption we see with everything. Remember when you had to roll down your window?
You honestly don't think there will be seven seat beauties with alcantara leather seats, five 4G tv's and a full bar offered by Audi? And four bus seat, ugly ass crap mobiles still made by chevy? What does the status symbol aspect of personal transportation have to do with self driven/manual driven cars?
I think you may see less of an emphasis though on people purchasing the vehicles, and more on people getting the surface. There is a statistic somewhere (excuse my lack of citation) where it states that like 95% of the time, a car is parked. So, if you could limit the amount of parking time by sharing vehicles, you'd in theory reduce the number of vehicles on the road, which would be the real bummer for car manufacturers.
And for that matter, as this thing moves towards adoption in the future, I'd be brushing up my resume if I were a bus driver/taxi driver. A lot of displaced labour if this were to go full monty.
One problem they will face is the first at fault collision or fatality will be blown out of proportion. It wont matter how bad people are at driving if the machine isnt perfect it will be judged as a failure.
As for timeline Nissan was saying 2020 for its first model. So by 2030 it probably is in wide spread use so 2050 by the time drivers are off the road which puts me about 70.
I'd be curious to see how it does with judgement calls. A few situations I have been in where I had to choose the lesser evil:
- Going down the freeway in Florida, and traffic goes from 75 to 0 immediately. All cars jam on their brakes, and I hesitate as I see the 5 ton truck behind me is unable to stop. Would the Google car just stop to avoid the car in front, or would it consider the truck behind me as well.
This is a tough one that few driver vehicles make. I think the potential for injury could be reduced either way, but I'm sure this could be added to any computer algorithm to avoid a worse accident
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- Similar situation on Deerfoot. I veered into the breakdown lane and the guy behind me plowed into the guy who was in front of me. Once again, would the Google car just stop as quick as possible.
Again, that doesn't have to be the case. Based on size, distance and speed of the vehicle behind, the car could be programmed to avoid being in the path.
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- After a multi-car collision, I was heading off a cliff. I managed to get the car to fall off at a point where the drop was only 20 feet, and either side was at least 200. Could it factor for that?
With proper lead distance and nanosecond reaction time, couldn't you stay on the road? Interesting problem though.
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- One thing that didn't happen to me, but given the choice after losing control, I might be inclined to hit a larger vehicle instead of hitting pedestrians. How would the Google car react?
I would imagine it would be programmed to do the same
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I really think it's cool, and if I could drive overnight on a road trip and arrive at my destination rested, and with my vehicle, I would be signing up. I'd just like to know how it would react to odd situations.
The first 99% of driving tasks are easily overcome. It's the other 1% that will take learning. I still say that a computer doing that 99% will save countless lives and injuries
I think it if fun if my car's controls could be wired up Mythbusters style and the actual driving done remotely by some kind of driving service company.
Then you also get to experience the feeling of what it is like to be a character in GTA.
I think it if fun if my car's controls could be wired up Mythbusters style and the actual driving done remotely by some kind of driving service company.
Then you also get to experience the feeling of what it is like to be a character in GTA.
If the human and environmental cost of the personal vehicle age wasn't such a horror show we would look back at the time when we used to drive ourselves around as so quaint.
I can see the advantages in having a driver less car in some situations but the thing is I enjoy driving. It seems like many of you don't.
Love to drive. Not willing to give that up.
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Me too. I love driving, and it seems less and less people agree as the years go by. Maybe it has to do with getting older. I'm 29 and still enjoy the feeling of being in control of a vehicle. Maybe that will change as I get into my 30's.
I'm in my mid 40's, still want to drive as much as I did when I was 16.
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I'm 35 and you can pry my steering wheel from my cold dead hands. Except when I'm drunk. Then it'd be nice to have an autopilot.
Exactly.
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With proper lead distance and nanosecond reaction time, couldn't you stay on the road? Interesting problem though.
I guess the best argument would be that the initial accident would not have happened with fully automated cars. The initial issue was that somebody pulled out to pass without shoulder checking; and I was in her blind spot (also passing.)
However the going off the cliff thing happened while my car was still in a body roll from going back onto 4 wheels; the pickup truck that launched over my car snagged me and put me onto 2 wheels for a moment. I actually used my emergency brake to steer onto the ledge. I had maybe 10-15 feet of road left at that point and the road was slick enough with frost that steering wouldn't have helped.
While everything I did could be programmed into a car; including the locking of specific brakes (my 2011 GMC does that already as part of traction control)- this comes down to a case of knowing I didn't have enough time to stop before running out of road. I chose to minimize my damage instead of a futile attempt at stopping.
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