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		|  06-12-2006, 04:00 PM | #22 |  
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			And a massive concussion probably.
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		|  06-12-2006, 05:28 PM | #23 |  
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				 I beleive it is also written into their contracts that you cannot ride Motorcycles.  
 Very stupid indeed.
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Not in the NHL otherwise Ference and Amonte would be in trouble.
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		|  06-12-2006, 07:00 PM | #24 |  
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			and police have confirmed that he was not wearing a helmet.
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		|  06-12-2006, 08:05 PM | #25 |  
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				 And a massive concussion probably. |  
Probably severe brain damage.
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		|  06-12-2006, 09:10 PM | #26 |  
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				 Probably severe brain damage. |  
Based on his decision making, he had brain damage before the accident.  
  
I think it is all part of the 'invinicibility' factor many athletes believe that they have.  Things come to easy for them, so they never consider any of the risks...
		 
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		|  06-12-2006, 09:42 PM | #27 |  
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				 Based on his decision making, he had brain damage before the accident. 
 I think it is all part of the 'invinicibility' factor many athletes believe that they have. Things come to easy for them, so they never consider any of the risks...
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I don't know. Everday thousands of bikers don't wear helmets. It only makes sense that a percentage of NFL bikers wouldn't also. 
 
The foolishness of youth more than preceived invincibility perhaps.
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		|  06-12-2006, 11:04 PM | #28 |  
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			Here are some pics of the crash scene..
 
the bike looks pretty mangled from some angles.. and the pool of blood is kind of disturbing as well
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		|  06-12-2006, 11:08 PM | #29 |  
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			We had a motorcycle fatality here last week while I was out of town on vacation. Kid with his girlfriend on the back was doing 130 mph down a city street in an industrial area. Semi pulled out because he saw the headlight way the heck down the street and the speed limit was 40 mph. Needless to say, by the time he got his rig heading the same direction the bike was on him and hit him. Helmets were irrelevant. Driver dead at the scene, girlfriend DOA. Dumb, dumb, dumb. 23 years old and 21 years old.  DONE. Now this poor truck driver has to spend the rest of his life wondering what he could've done when it just isn't his fault at all.
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		|  06-12-2006, 11:08 PM | #30 |  
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			Chalk up another one for the darwin awards!
 Another idiot who thinks he's invinciable!
 
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		|  06-13-2006, 01:51 AM | #31 |  
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			Man, wear a helmet you friggin idiot!  Jeez, lucky to still be alive.
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		|  06-13-2006, 03:59 AM | #32 |  
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			I don't understand why he would take a risk of riding a motorcyle at all let alone without a helmet. The guy has 15 years to play football and make tons of money and then he has 40+ years to enjoy it doing whatever activities he feels like. I would think he could wait for 10 years or so and not put his career in jeopardy. 
 Now I am not a motorcyle guy so I don't get the appeal of riding them but I would think that it is not so great that risking millions of dollars and a great career would be worth risking it.
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		|  06-13-2006, 10:15 AM | #33 |  
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				 Man, wear a helmet you friggin idiot! Jeez, lucky to still be alive. |  
Anyone else catch the coverage on TSN last night?
  
They had an interview with Ben from July 2005 where he talked about riding a motorcycle, and him flat out saying he will never wear a helmet.. but that he will ride as safely as possible.
  
I feel sorry for his friends and family, and his employers, but not one little bit of sympathy for him.
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		|  06-13-2006, 12:59 PM | #34 |  
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			riding without a helmet is a personal choice.  he knew the risks.  now people are bashing the state of pennsylvania for not having a helmet law.  give me a break.
 not having sympathy for the guy seems a bit cold
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		|  06-13-2006, 01:03 PM | #35 |  
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			ESPN has an article about contract language and what is changing to minimize/prevent these types of accidents. link 
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		| Roethlisberger's contract doesn't specifically forbid him from riding motorcycles. Most don't. However, agents say his accident might encourage teams to put specific language about motorcycle use in more contracts to protect their pricey investments. |  
From an ESPN interview  with Andrea Kramer (2005):
 
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		| ESPN: How much do you view riding a motorcycle as a risk? Roethlisberger: I think it can be a risk. It depends on how you ride. I don't ride a sport bike. If I'm riding a sport bike and trying to do tricks, and going 200 miles down the highway, that's probably pretty stupid. But when you're riding a Harley or a chopper and you're riding with a group of people and you're not on the highway and you're cruising, you're relaxing. I don't think its as much of a risk as people make it out to be.
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He crashed a 2005 Suzuki GSX1300R  aka Hayabusa:
 
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		| It has a 1299 cc inline-4 engine typically rated between 150 and 180 bhp (110 to 132 kW), and was consistently tested as the quickest and fastest production motorcycle in the world circa 2000 |  
Oh, and from another ESPN.COM article today:
 
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		| Ben Roethlisberger might have been riding without a license to drive a motorcycle when he was involved in an accident Monday. |  
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		| Sources told the TV station that Roethlisberger had a license to operate a car but has never had a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. Roethlisberger had a learner's permit to operate a motorcycle that expired March 29 but had never taken the written and driving tests for a motorcycle license, a source told KDKA.
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		|  06-13-2006, 01:05 PM | #36 |  
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Keep in mind, I have no sympathy for the guy, but I do hope he makes a speedy and full recovery.
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		|  06-13-2006, 01:28 PM | #38 |  
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			You'd think a guy who is smart enought to wear a helmet while running around trying to avoid being hit by 300 lb dudes would have enought sense to wear a helmet while riding around trying to avoid 3000 lb cars.
 Oh well.
 As a motorcycle rider myself, a helmet is the piece of equipement you absolutely do not want to skimp on. Anyone I know who is buying a bike, I tell them the same thing, spend as much money on a helmet as you can.
 
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		|  06-13-2006, 02:04 PM | #39 |  
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				  They had an interview with Ben from July 2005 where he talked about riding a motorcycle, and him flat out saying he will never wear a helmet.. but that he will ride as safely as possible.
 
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I saw it today.  He also went off on a bit of a "nobody can tell me what to do" tangent.  Another reason he gave for not wearing a helmet was that he feels "more free when I ride".
 
This moron is lucky he can play football.
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		|  06-13-2006, 02:29 PM | #40 |  
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				 I saw it today. He also went off on a bit of a "nobody can tell me what to do" tangent. Another reason he gave for not wearing a helmet was that he feels "more free when I ride".
 This moron is lucky he can play football.
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Hey Ben, might want to wipe some of that egg off your face!
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