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Old 05-19-2014, 12:49 PM   #1761
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This is getting silly...

Haven't any of you read my recent posts? You only need to read the last couple of pages to see why voting for me is terrible for the town even if you do still suspect me of being mafia.

There is zero benefit to lynching me. The only winners here are the mafia if I'm lynched... There is no debate and lynching me makes no sense... No progress.

READ THE LAST COUPLE OF PAGES!
I'll go back and read. To be honest I'm pretty frustrated with the game as a whole. You can just tell mafia's pretty much running things, while 60% of the guys playing don't react to or comment on anything that happens.

Cbl is mafia. That's the only thing I'm really sure of at this point. But of course instead if a bunch of people jumping and putting pressure on him everyone just sits back and let's it ride, leading to easy cover for mafia.

If he isn't, I'll happily die on that sword, but it's just too obvious to me.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:52 PM   #1762
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I'll go back and read. To be honest I'm pretty frustrated with the game as a whole. You can just tell mafia's pretty much running things, while 60% of the guys playing don't react to or comment on anything that happens.

Cbl is mafia. That's the only thing I'm really sure of at this point. But of course instead if a bunch of people jumping and putting pressure on him everyone just sits back and let's it ride, leading to easy cover for mafia.

If he isn't, I'll happily die on that sword, but it's just too obvious to me.
He is. We need to lynch a mafia on day 5 to have a chance of still winning.

Like I said, with my reveal, I'm dead anyways at night. Hopefully we lynch mafia day 5, then I can save a townie night 5, or both factions night kiil me, turning 2 potential town deaths into 1.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:54 PM   #1763
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Old 05-19-2014, 01:03 PM   #1764
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Alright with dissentowners vote I'll care again and feel like we have a chance.

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Old 05-19-2014, 01:35 PM   #1765
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I'm fine with this. You guys are going to feel downright stupid letting yourselves be manipulated by the mafia like this, but at least the truth will be revealed soon. Oh, and be ready for Baxter and flameswin's "Oh geez, looks like we were wrong about Crazy Bacon Legs! Oops!" posts following this round.

I can tell you one thing: next game, I am going to keep my mouth shut. It's way too easy to become a target when you actually name names as to who mafia is. If anyone took the time to think for a moment, you would see that I brought a ton of attention to myself making the post I did. I would NEVER do that if I was mafia. Look at my voting pattern. Look at my posts trying to stop people from lynching townspeople in rounds two and three.

Looks like I got a little too close to the truth.

Best of luck, remaining townspeople. You're going to need it.
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Old 05-19-2014, 01:44 PM   #1766
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I'm fine with this. You guys are going to feel downright stupid letting yourselves be manipulated by the mafia like this, but at least the truth will be revealed soon. Oh, and be ready for Baxter and flameswin's "Oh geez, looks like we were wrong about Crazy Bacon Legs! Oops!" posts following this round.

I can tell you one thing: next game, I am going to keep my mouth shut. It's way too easy to become a target when you actually name names as to who mafia is. If anyone took the time to think for a moment, you would see that I brought a ton of attention to myself making the post I did. I would NEVER do that if I was mafia. Look at my voting pattern. Look at my posts trying to stop people from lynching townspeople in rounds two and three.

Looks like I got a little too close to the truth.

Best of luck, remaining townspeople. You're going to need it.
I admitted to being the doctor so I won't get anything but a death post after this round, remember? Oh thats right, you're mafia pretending to be town so your mind doesn't operate like a true townsperson...
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:49 PM   #1767
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I'm sticking to my guns on this one, despite that post. Not much happening in this game anyways. I'll be next if he's town, but that's fine at this point. If cbl is town we're pretty much f'd anyways.
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:16 PM   #1768
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Sorry I have been off line all weekend.

I have a bunch of reading and catching up prior to the deadline.

I am still surprised that Flameswin's plan didn't catch on, it seemed win/win to me.
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:51 PM   #1769
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Sorry I have been off line all weekend.

I have a bunch of reading and catching up prior to the deadline.

I am still surprised that Flameswin's plan didn't catch on, it seemed win/win to me.
I remember at the time thinking that the plan didn't make sense, and I am pretty sure I asked him to clarify it, but maybe I just thought about asking him. I can't really find the post until I am on my computer, so if someone wants to quote it, I would reconsider.

Whatever it is, if it makes sense, we can try it tomorrow.

I will also touch on the game being slow these past few days, you can't really worry about that much with it being the long weekend. People need to start playing and not just being passive observers, or the town is going to get run over.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:12 PM   #1770
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Sorry I have been off line all weekend.

I have a bunch of reading and catching up prior to the deadline.

I am still surprised that Flameswin's plan didn't catch on, it seemed win/win to me.
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I remember at the time thinking that the plan didn't make sense, and I am pretty sure I asked him to clarify it, but maybe I just thought about asking him. I can't really find the post until I am on my computer, so if someone wants to quote it, I would reconsider.

Whatever it is, if it makes sense, we can try it tomorrow.

I will also touch on the game being slow these past few days, you can't really worry about that much with it being the long weekend. People need to start playing and not just being passive observers, or the town is going to get run over.
It really was a win/win at the time. There was already mafia accusations thrown out by CBL and Oling AND they both voted, then I voted, then UCB voted. I was the runaway leader and was confident my lynching was going to expose at the very least, CBL, if not more mafia.

Suspiciously enough, it was CBL that first said my plan was "a nice touch" by a mafia member. Implying that I didn't actually intend to follow through on it as I am mafia, which is odd considering how far the plan was with 4 votes and solid reasoning for everyone to jump on board with.

Then he made an 8 paragraph post after my plan started working and finished it by saying we should no longer lynch me for the time being, and switched his vote.

I'm still on board myself, although, now it looks like CBL is gonna go next. If anyone wants we can do me first, so the town can be more sure of everything I've said up until this point, that's fine, I'll switch my vote.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:51 PM   #1771
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Wow go away for the weekend and all hell breaks loose.

Guess I got some homework to do
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:55 PM   #1772
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If your plan was to convince people that CBL was mafia, why would you want to go back to that plan if he is leading in votes? Haven't you already got your way?
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:02 PM   #1773
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It really was a win/win at the time. There was already mafia accusations thrown out by CBL and Oling AND they both voted, then I voted, then UCB voted. I was the runaway leader and was confident my lynching was going to expose at the very least, CBL, if not more mafia.

Suspiciously enough, it was CBL that first said my plan was "a nice touch" by a mafia member. Implying that I didn't actually intend to follow through on it as I am mafia, which is odd considering how far the plan was with 4 votes and solid reasoning for everyone to jump on board with.

Then he made an 8 paragraph post after my plan started working and finished it by saying we should no longer lynch me for the time being, and switched his vote.

I'm still on board myself, although, now it looks like CBL is gonna go next. If anyone wants we can do me first, so the town can be more sure of everything I've said up until this point, that's fine, I'll switch my vote.

...and just for further clarification, as I know lots of posters were away and will have a tough time catching up.

In that huge post CBL made where he attempted to shift everyone away from the flameswin votes himself plan, he actually stated that he was still certain I was mafia.

So basically he started a campaign against me right out of the gate. It started working, including me voting for myself, with the caveat that I wanted it to happen to expose others.

Then he made that long winded post where he proclaimed I was definitely mafia, but he ended it by switching his vote to Baxter and started that crusade.

Very odd, as he had someone in me who was definitely mafia at 4 votes and on the ropes, but decided to unvote and sway everyone a different direction.

There was literally no reason for that unless he's mafia and knows my death will expose him as mafia. Very damning, there's no other explanation. If I'm wrong, I've basically screwed the game for us.

But if CBL is town I will literally take a dump on a plate and eat it for breakfast.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:03 PM   #1774
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If your plan was to convince people that CBL was mafia, why would you want to go back to that plan if he is leading in votes? Haven't you already got your way?
Yes. I'm saying if others go that route instead, I'm still down for it. We're still at 5 votes for CBL.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:11 PM   #1775
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He went after Baxter because he thinks he's lying about being the doctor. If he really was mafia and did think Baxter was the doctor, wouldn't it make sense to pursue another target and then kill Baxter at night?
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:12 PM   #1776
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Right now I don't see the reason to vote out either Baxter renegade or CBL, as they are both likely targets for the mafia. I agreed with the logic of CBL's regarding the votes.
Right now my top target is Hockeyguy15, as I am really surprised that he has yet to have been targeted. He has been very vocal, as well as voting to get rid of all the townies, except for this last vote where he went after CofR. I think everyone should take a look at HG15 as I am unable to fathom why he has not been targeted.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:16 PM   #1777
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HG15 is tough to read. I agree that his posting spree is a reaction to the previous game going after inactive posters, and he's created so much noise early on which has contributed to confusion for the town. Not sure why, but I can't tell what his intentions are still.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:19 PM   #1778
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He went after Baxter because he thinks he's lying about being the doctor. If he really was mafia and did think Baxter was the doctor, wouldn't it make sense to pursue another target and then kill Baxter at night?
Baxter claimed to be the doctor way after CBL changed his vote from me and crusaded against Baxter. I can bring up the order of events if you'd like?

Also, all we have in terms of Baxter being the doctor is Baxter saying "I'm the doctor, you guys are making a mistake".
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Yeah, which is why I think he's full of crap.

I switched my vote because I hope his lying ass gets taken out by the other mafia. If he isn't taken out, and I don't know why he wouldn't be killed at this point then he's probably someone that should be ignored or dealt with the next day. He's either the doctor or he's mafia for the other mafia, he should logically be a dead man.
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Yeah, which is why I think he's full of crap.

I switched my vote because I hope his lying ass gets taken out by the other mafia. If he isn't taken out, and I don't know why he wouldn't be killed at this point then he's probably someone that should be ignored or dealt with the next day. He's either the doctor or he's mafia for the other mafia, he should logically be a dead man.
So you think CBL is town and just not thinking this through properly?
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