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Old 05-02-2014, 11:54 PM   #41
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He did say "my team" and "my parents" and "my rules" and "my ballteam" and "my preference" and "respecting the coach" and "I am in a position of leadership" yadda yadda yadda.

He may think he's doing the right thing, but he's not. And it really does seem like it's about him and somehow saving face or exerting his "authority" as coach of a kid's baseball team
Yeah, a complete power trip. I'm not saying he's an awful person but he doesn't understand what he's doing and needs to be called on it.
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:11 AM   #42
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This is such a non-issue for me. The coach has had this rule for 7 years (From the article) and has never had a problem, so everyone should have been aware of the rule prior to the season.
Totally agree. The coach is just teaching them discipline and teamwork. You want to be different from the other players, then play somewhere else. Of course there is always someone who will try to bend the rules and see if they can get away with it.
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:49 AM   #43
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How is it discrimination?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination

It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.[2]


Pretty self explanatory. Kid has long hair and is not allowed to join team with short hair. What would you call that?
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:51 AM   #44
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Totally agree. The coach is just teaching them discipline and teamwork. You want to be different from the other players, then play somewhere else. Of course there is always someone who will try to bend the rules and see if they can get away with it.
Do some of you even read your posts out loud and not realize how ridiculous they sound? How are they learning teamwork by all having short hair? Why not all have long hair? Discipline? From what? not combing your hair?
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:36 AM   #45
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Totally agree. The coach is just teaching them discipline and teamwork. You want to be different from the other players, then play somewhere else. Of course there is always someone who will try to bend the rules and see if they can get away with it.
This is in Pincher Creek, where else do you suggest the kid goes?
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Jaromir Jäger and Steve Nash were such disrespectfull poor roll models back in the day.
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Jaromir Jäger and Steve Nash were such disrespectfull poor roll models back in the day.
Well, Chris Simon was pretty dirty.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination

It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.[2]


Pretty self explanatory. Kid has long hair and is not allowed to join team with short hair. What would you call that?
I would call it not following the rules that are already in place, they are not saying he can't play, they are saying he can't play unless he adheres to the rules that are set in place. In life organizations whether it be sports, clubs(such as all female gyms) or work have codes which they require members to follow.now if the rule was based on his skin colour,or a disability, then yeah it would be discrimination. But the whole hair thing, well sorry kid you are not anymore special then anyone else,if you want to join a team you should follow the teams rules.

As for what I would call it, I would say he is self-entitled.
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The kid should get a hair cut and at the same time buy a long hair wig. Show up for practice with the wig and egg on the coach. When coach has a nervous break down he can take off his cap and the wig and tell the coach he did get a hair cut. The kids and players can have a good laugh at the coaches expense.
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I can see both sides of this issue. Where do you draw the line though. What if the kid did not want to run foul poles? As mentioned earlier, what if the coach only wanted players with tattoos?

Sometimes you just need to fit in......I am not sure that this is a fight worth fighting.

I guess I disagree with the mom running around making a huge deal about this.
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I can see both sides of this issue. Where do you draw the line though. What if the kid did not want to run foul poles? As mentioned earlier, what if the coach only wanted players with tattoos?

Sometimes you just need to fit in......I am not sure that this is a fight worth fighting.

I guess I disagree with the mom running around making a huge deal about this.
Problem with the tattoo comparison is, are there any organizations or groups or teams that have required that? Besides re-growing hair is way different to do then removing a tattoo after you are done with a team. But I guess that being said if a team required a tattoo (though I don't think you could do that to kids anyways) then every participant would have to get one or choose to do something else.
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I would call it not following the rules that are already in place, they are not saying he can't play, they are saying he can't play unless he adheres to the rules that are set in place. In life organizations whether it be sports, clubs(such as all female gyms) or work have codes which they require members to follow.now if the rule was based on his skin colour,or a disability, then yeah it would be discrimination. But the whole hair thing, well sorry kid you are not anymore special then anyone else,if you want to join a team you should follow the teams rules.

As for what I would call it, I would say he is self-entitled.
I guess the Blacks should have just kept following the rules and kept standing on the bus and not drinking out of the white people fountain. Since following the old idiotic rules is so important.
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I guess the Blacks should have just kept following the rules and kept standing on the bus and not drinking out of the white people fountain. Since following the old idiotic rules is so important.
That's exactly what this issue is. Racism.

lol at "The Blacks". Ouch.
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This thread is hilarious. Such gross over reaction has rarely been seen around these parts.

Lessons this kid will learn from this situation:

1. I can get what I want by calling people out on social media and having the public cry injustice for me.

2. (if he reads this thread) Being forced to cut my hair in order to play baseball is akin to hundreds of years of oppression and slavery for black people.

3. Sacrifice is not necessary in life.

4. I am more important than anyone else on my team. Just look at me on facebook!

All lessons that will serve him very well in his future endeavors.

I understand that some think it's an outdated philosophy on the coach's part, and I don't necessarily disagree, but the outrage and hyperbole surrounding the length of a 16 year old kid's hair is absolutely hilarious.
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I guess the Blacks should have just kept following the rules and kept standing on the bus and not drinking out of the white people fountain. Since following the old idiotic rules is so important.
While I disagree with making someone cut their hair for a youth sports team that should be focused on promoting physical activity and instilling positive life lessons like hard work and the like, can you tone down the hyperbole to a dull roar.
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While I disagree with making someone cut their hair for a youth sports team that should be focused on promoting physical activity and instilling positive life lessons like hard work and the like, can you tone down the hyperbole to a dull roar.
It's not hyperbole buddy and I don't need a lesson from you, that's for sure.

Go ask the kid how he feels and I bet he feels like crap and discriminated against. He was discriminated against the exact same way that black people got and get discriminated against everyday.

I think some of you are so out of touch with reality that you can't for one second put yourself in this kid's shoes.

This isn't a big deal to the people defending this idiotic coach because

A) You probably have an army cut

B) You've never been discriminated against in your life
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It's not hyperbole buddy and I don't need a lesson from you, that's for sure.

Go ask the kid how he feels and I bet he feels like crap and discriminated against. He was discriminated against the exact same way that black people got and get discriminated against everyday.

I think some of you are so out of touch with reality that you can't for one second put yourself in this kid's shoes.

This isn't a big deal to the people defending this idiotic coach because

A) You probably have an army cut

B) You've never been discriminated against in your life
My coach told me to cut my hair for basketball. It was luxurious and almost shoulder length.
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Do some of you even read your posts out loud and not realize how ridiculous they sound? How are they learning teamwork by all having short hair? Why not all have long hair? Discipline? From what? not combing your hair?
I think you are the one not reading it properly. From the coach of point of view, it is not just the length of the hair, he wants every single player to be in the same boat. If every player have a long hair, the coach wants the kid to have a long hair. If every player wear suits, the coach would want him to wear a suit. I think the media is blowing the story out of proportion. They are singling out the long hair but not focusing on what the coach's wants..... that every single player follow the same rule. If a coach wants everybody with short hair and wear shirt and tie, then every single player should abide by the rules. If a player wants to have a long hair or just wear ripped shirt, then the coach can say no to the kid. Rules are rules. Like I said the media is making this story an issue on the short hair policy only.
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