Shoved him directly in the numbers from behind, unnecessary hit, caused injury, 5+Game penalty call, 2-3 games, and deserved.
Laughably bad trolling. Watch one of the hundred or so replays floating around, you can very clearly see the numbers the entire time. It was a 90 degree hit, not at all close to "in the numbers".
I expect the nhl to throw the book at Byron. He's a nobody who hurt a big star. Added to that is a new director of player safety who won't want to seem soft. I just hope he doesn't get Steve-Moored next season.
Laughably bad trolling. Watch one of the hundred or so replays floating around, you can very clearly see the numbers the entire time. It was a 90 degree hit, not at all close to "in the numbers".
Every news report says "in the numbers." “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”
Sedin has already been released from hospital, so it can't be anything major. I don't think he will need much time to recover.
Due to the game misconduct and lack of severity in injury, if he gets anything, it would probably be 1-2 games. I would be shocked if it is over that, and I'm not expecting a suspension.
I missed the game but watched Sportscentre where coach Tortorella comments about coach Hartley's actions while Sedin was being carried off in the stretcher.
Laughably bad trolling. Watch one of the hundred or so replays floating around, you can very clearly see the numbers the entire time. It was a 90 degree hit, not at all close to "in the numbers".
Not in the numbers, but it was technically blind side (primarily because Sedin deliberately kept his back to Byron). The major penalty was the right call under the circumstances. But that should effectively be the one game punishment for this hit.
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I missed the game but watched Sportscentre where coach Tortorella comments about coach Hartley's actions while Sedin was being carried off in the stretcher.
What did coach Hartley do?
Flames discussion occurred while the player was on the ice.... not sure if it was to get a clarification on the Penalty or arguing the penalty
Watched it a bunch of times, its not that bad of a hit. Definitely didn't seem like there was malicious intent, he's going in to finish his check and Sedin turns. He'll probably get a game or 2 though. I'm ok with a penalty call but if its up to me there's no suspension on this play.
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A few weeks after crashing head-first into the boards (denting his helmet and being unable to move for a little while) following a hit from behind by Bob Errey, the Calgary Flames player explains:
"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
It's these exact hits, and situations that drive me nuts. Players are all to willing to turn their backs along the boards to draw a penalty, without even considering the risk they expose themselves too. Then it's the guy that makes the hit that gets tossed from the game, and possibly suspended or fined. People say "well he should have backed off, he should have avoided him", sure, that could have prevented the injury, but is that what we really want hockey to come too? A guy going in for a hit, and slowing up 5 feet away, just incase the guy he's targeting decides to turn his back? That's not hockey. Hockey is a physical game, played at high speeds. Players need to be more responsible for their own safety. Turning your back along the boards is no different than diving, you are embellishing a play, to draw a penalty. They penalize Diving now, and they should penalize a player for turning his back along the boards, it's dumb, and it's dangerous.
The best way to prevent the injury in this scenario, is for Sedin to make the right decision. prepare for the hit, get the arms up, and battle hard along the boards once he's pinned, rather than exposing his back, looking down at the ice, and keeping his hands by his waist and waiting to draw the penalty by going face first into the glass.
I hate to see anyone injured, but I also hate to see players get tossed from games, suspended, fined, or have to worry about the health of a guy that made a stupid choice to try to draw a penalty.
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Byron pushes Sedin's left shoulder. He doesn't touch him "in the numbers".
It wasn't even an illegal hit.
Shouldn't have been a penalty and if it is a suspension it will be a black mark on the NHL disciplinary system.
Can you seriously watch the replays of this hit and come to the conclusion that Byron doesn't put his hands in the middle of Sedin's back and push him into the boards? I mean... really? You really actually see that?
I'll run you through what I see in these replays, and maybe you can explain what you're seeing because I think you're nuts.
From 1:13 to 1:14
I see Sedin turning his back to Byron, to protect the puck. I agree with the assessment that this is Sedin putting himself in a vulnerable position, but I disagree that this absolves Byron of responsibility.
Simultaneously, I see Byron's hands come up, his right hand holding his stick, his left hand opening, and I see him placing his hands in the middle of Sedin's back, actually physically touching Sedin's numbers.
At 1:15 Sedin's momentum has carried him a little past Byron, so Byron's left shoulder and Sedin's left shoulder are in contact, but Byron's hands are still in the middle of Sedin's back.
1:16 Byron then pushes both his hands forwards.
That is the illegal part of this hit. If he'd kept his hands tight to his body, and used his momentum to carry him into Sedin, I think it would have been a legal hit. But he didn't. He drove his hands forward, right into Sedin's back, forcing him into the wall, causing the awkward collision between Sedin's head and the plexi.
I can quite clearly see Byron's right hand, holding his stick upright, touching Sedin's numbers at 1:16 of this video. If you don't see that ... I don't think we can have a conversation about this, because we're living in different universes.
Again, at 1:46 there is a different angle where I can see Byron gather his hands into his body in preparation for the check just as Sedin turns. At 1:47 they start to become obscured a little by Giordano, but I clearly see both of Byron's hands going into Sedin's numbers. It's hard to see the shove at 1:48 because of Gio, but I saw it really clearly in the first angle.
I think this hit violates rule 41 (I'll admit it doesn't violate rule 43, since Sedin is both aware of the hit, and intentionally turns his body) because of the way Byron pushes Sedin into the boards. Rule 41 explicitly states "The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee." (emphasis added)
Based upon Sedin's impact with the boards, caused by the unnecessary shove by Byron, resulting in Sedin requiring a stretcher and a hospital visit, I think Byron is going to get suspended by the NHL for two to three games and I think he deserves it.
If the uniforms were reversed and that was Hudler and, like, Tanev, most of this board would be screaming for ten games.
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Definitely suspended. 1-3 games. Sedin turned his back to Bryon, but he full on shoved him from behind into the boards. Tough spot for a guy who has to give it his all every time he goes into the corners due to his size. Kristen O wasn't that far off in her tweet though, man up Daniel.
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I think, based on the fact that 5 and a game were given right away, Byron doesn't have any history as a dirty player, and Sedin seems to be fine after a quick hospital visit; there will be no more discipline.
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Yeah i dont understand how anyone can say this isnt a hit from behind....i mean he literally puts his hands on the numbers of the guys jersey and pushes him.
Pretty straight forward stuff and very much a suspendable offense in many cases, though its clear Byron was letting up at the time as it could have been much worse.
Probably a game or two....but more importantly its good to hear Sedin is going to be OK.
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Can you seriously watch the replays of this hit and come to the conclusion that Byron doesn't put his hands in the middle of Sedin's back and push him into the boards? I mean... really? You really actually see that?
I'll run you through what I see in these replays, and maybe you can explain what you're seeing because I think you're nuts.
From 1:13 to 1:14
I see Sedin turning his back to Byron, to protect the puck. I agree with the assessment that this is Sedin putting himself in a vulnerable position, but I disagree that this absolves Byron of responsibility.
Simultaneously, I see Byron's hands come up, his right hand holding his stick, his left hand opening, and I see him placing his hands in the middle of Sedin's back, actually physically touching Sedin's numbers.
At 1:15 Sedin's momentum has carried him a little past Byron, so Byron's left shoulder and Sedin's left shoulder are in contact, but Byron's hands are still in the middle of Sedin's back.
1:16
Byron then pushes both his hands forwards.
That is the illegal part of this hit. If he'd kept his hands tight to his body, and used his momentum to carry him into Sedin, I think it would have been a legal hit.
But he didn't. He drove his hands forward, right into Sedin's back, forcing him into the wall, causing the awkward collision between Sedin's head and the plexi.
I can quite clearly see Byron's right hand, holding his stick upright, touching Sedin's numbers at 1:16 of this video. If you don't see that ... I don't think we can have a conversation about this, because we're living in different universes.
Again, at 1:46 there is a different angle where I can see Byron gather his hands into his body in preparation for the check just as Sedin turns. At 1:47 they start to become obscured a little by Giordano, but I clearly see both of Byron's hands going into Sedin's numbers. It's hard to see the shove at 1:48 because of Gio, but I saw it really clearly in the first angle.
I think this hit violates rule 41 (I'll admit it doesn't violate rule 43, since Sedin is both aware of the hit, and intentionally turns his body) because of the way Byron pushes Sedin into the boards. Rule 41 explicitly states "The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee." (emphasis added)
Based upon Sedin's impact with the boards, caused by the unnecessary shove by Byron, resulting in Sedin requiring a stretcher and a hospital visit, I think Byron is going to get suspended by the NHL for two to three games and I think he deserves it.
If the uniforms were reversed and that was Hudler and, like, Tanev, most of this board would be screaming for ten games.
Come on, I get you're trying to make a point here, but everyone knows that's not what you see.
Byron's right hand is in the middle of Sedin's back, his left hand is on his shoulder. This wasn't "two hands on the numbers," so let's not make this hit any worse than it already is by embellishing the way it went down.
I mean really, your follow up doesn't even make sense. Unless Byron was directly behind Sedin (he wasn't) it's physically impossible to have his left hand in the middle of Sedin's back while his left shoulder is touching Sedin's left shoulder and still have any ability to push with it (based on the angle, your scenario is simply impossible).
Byron came up at an angle, pushes Sedin at an angle with contact to the shoulder and back, and in any other scenario Sedin goes into the boards with his right shoulder, but for because of how Sedin stopped (I assume) he ended up being unable to complete the turn to his shoulder. The Sedin's go into the boards with their back out constantly, but this time he just ended up with a stinger. Byron was a little careless, so give him a game for a warning, but this whole "two handed push on the numbers" thing? Give it a rest. You're just seeing what you want to see.
Hypotheticals are useless as a defence. You can say that if it was Hudler being run in by Tanev that Flames fans would be howling for ten, but Vancouver fans would be defending it relentlessly, and we'd be in no different of a situation.
It was the same with the McGrattan/Edler hit. Vancouver fans were crying for a suspension, and guess what? Clean hit. Fans of the "victim" of hit on the edge always call bloody murder, that doesn't make them right.
