06-05-2006, 05:51 PM
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This debate is like arguing about religion. We all know everyone likes different kinds of music. Why do we have to have a "rap is crap" thread every 3 months or so??
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06-06-2006, 11:09 AM
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#102
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Originally Posted by Neeper
This debate is like arguing about religion. We all know everyone likes different kinds of music. Why do we have to have a "rap is crap" thread every 3 months or so??
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I think its because the vast majority of people over the ages of 13-21 cant understand the genre, and it has absolutely no impact on their lives other than the fact their sons want to wear 75 pounds of bling bling, low rider pants, XXXXXXXL BBall Jersey, bandana and side mounted farmers cap and their daughters want to wear...well nothing!.
Not to mention the fact that the lyrics i presented earlier have a very serious consequence when it comes to parenting.
Yes theres "a small amount" of good stuff....but that is not what is presented in the mainstream at all. Rap is not positive in any way shape or form.
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06-06-2006, 11:35 AM
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#103
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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95% of rap is crap. So what?
95% of jazz is crap.
95% of blues is crap.
95% of punk is crap.
95% of techno is crap.
95% of pop music is crap.
99% of country music is crap.
99% of folk music is crap.
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06-06-2006, 11:54 AM
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#104
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by troutman
95% of rap is crap. So what?
95% of jazz is crap.
95% of blues is crap.
95% of punk is crap.
95% of techno is crap.
95% of pop music is crap.
99% of country music is crap.
99% of folk music is crap.
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Finally someone achieves some brilliance in this thread. Seemed obvious from the start that this is the case (though I notice Folk/Country are deemed 'crappier' in your list  ).
Music tends to be appreciated in different ways by different people. It's not inherently 'good or bad', it just is.
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06-06-2006, 12:23 PM
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#105
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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100% of my record collection is brilliant. 
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06-06-2006, 04:37 PM
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#106
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by troutman
100% of my record collection is brilliant. |
good work. Before mine got stolen I had a couple and wondered why I bothered buying them.
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06-06-2006, 05:37 PM
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#107
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Originally Posted by troutman
95% of rap is crap. So what?
95% of jazz is crap.
95% of blues is crap.
95% of punk is crap.
95% of techno is crap.
95% of pop music is crap.
99% of country music is crap.
99% of folk music is crap.
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the DIFFERENCE in crap is like this...The stuff you listed is like a regular bowel movement...nothing special, a little smelly, but crap nonetheless.
Rap is well...its like one of those benders you went on in University...or more like the day after. You know when even you couldnt stand the smell of your own "crap". Beer, Popcorn, Nachos, more Beer, Shooters and god knows what else you tossed on top of it. Loved ones are not safe...and neither are enemies.
So even in the ranks of crap...there is different kinds of...well you get the picture. 
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06-06-2006, 07:38 PM
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#108
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Originally Posted by Calgary Flames
Beats in Rap music are instrumental sounds... There's rythym, harmony and a melody to it.
Music is not defined by the sounds being made live by those instruments.
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No Jordon, you are clearly missing the point. If everything isn't run through a factory with production lines operated by robots, then it's obviously not right. I can't believe you, or anyone else, would even dare to vary from the norm. That's the sort of mindstate that causes confusion and terror for those who live in the simley, happy world of daffodils, dandelions, rainbows and lollipops. Everything should always be done the way it always has been, and if it's not, it's wrong. This is not an opinion, this is a fact.
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06-06-2006, 08:57 PM
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#109
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Calgary Flames
Beats in Rap music are instrumental sounds... There's rythym, harmony and a melody to it.
Music is not defined by the sounds being made live by those instruments.
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.<------ the point
you---------------------------------------------->.
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06-07-2006, 01:20 PM
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#110
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
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rock is crap. I am sick of listening to depressed white people make songs about how bad their life is when they have money up the ying yang.
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06-07-2006, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by RedMan12
rock is crap. I am sick of listening to depressed white people make songs about how bad their life is when they have money up the ying yang.
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Absolutely. But I blame that on the emo kids.
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06-07-2006, 04:04 PM
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#112
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Absolutely. But I blame that on the emo kids.
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Most emo kids just need a hug. I would hug them, but then I would be close enough to their proximity of despair. It's like a disease.
Seriously. If I have ever had a kid, Id rather they are gothic then emo.
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06-07-2006, 05:11 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Most emo kids just need a hug. I would hug them, but then I would be close enough to their proximity of despair. It's like a disease.
Seriously. If I have ever had a kid, Id rather they are gothic then emo.
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hahaha. What kinds of bands are exactly emo. I just put any whiny and depressed rock, punk or alternative bands in the category.
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06-07-2006, 08:02 PM
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#114
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n00b!
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Guys who sport black nail polish really bother me.
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06-07-2006, 09:05 PM
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#115
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Rap, like country music, has a very healthy portion of crap but also some really good stuff.
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06-07-2006, 11:00 PM
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#116
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by RedMan12
Ever heard of The Roots? Quest Love is an awesome drum player. They are a hip hop band that uses all real instruments.
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Most of the stuff I've heard has the exact same beat, probably a beat designed by computers.
I'm not only accusing rap of using computers to make music, but most of the mainstream music today. I want real music, with a band that uses guitars and drums to make it.
Thats my opinion anyway.
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06-07-2006, 11:02 PM
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#117
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Calgary Flames
Since when is music defined by the use of actual instruments?? What a stupid arguement.
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To me, real music is made by instruments.
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06-07-2006, 11:04 PM
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#118
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Had an idea!
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nm.
Last edited by Azure; 06-07-2006 at 11:06 PM.
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06-07-2006, 11:18 PM
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#119
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by Azure
Most of the stuff I've heard has the exact same beat, probably a beat designed by computers.
I'm not only accusing rap of using computers to make music, but most of the mainstream music today. I want real music, with a band that uses guitars and drums to make it.
Thats my opinion anyway.
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That's a pretty narrow definition of "real music". Glenn Gould and Miles Davis, for example, didn't make real music?
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06-08-2006, 03:13 AM
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#120
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans
Guys who sport black nail polish really bother me.
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