RFA Thread - Guess their Future

[PeteMoss]

Inspired by the Byron thread, the following guys are RFAs after this year:

TJ Galiardi
Ben Hanowski
Paul Bryon
Joe Colborne
Lance Bouma
Chad Billins
Mark Cundari
Olivier Roy
Joni Ortio

(Left out James Martin and David Eddy since I doubt either would be signed)

So... do they all get contracts? For the guys who get signed... guess the dollar figure.

Can see current cap hit on capgeek: http://capgeek.com/flames

[$ven27]

Ortio, Byron, Colborne, Bouma. Let the rest go

[devo22]

RE-SIGN:

Ben Hanowski
Paul Byron
Joe Colborne
Lance Bouma
Chad Billins
Joni Ortio

LET GO:

TJ Galiardi
Mark Cundari
Olivier Roy
James Martin
David Eddy

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Inspired by the Byron thread, the following guys are RFAs after this year:

TJ Galiardi - re-sign to a 2-way deal
Ben Hanowski - re-sign to a 2-way deal
Paul Bryon - re-sign to a 1-way deal
Joe Colborne - re-sign to a 1-way deal
Lance Bouma - re-sign to a 1-way deal
Chad Billins - re-sign to a 2-way deal
Mark Cundari - re-sign to a 2-way deal
Olivier Roy - walk
Joni Ortio - re-sign to a 2-way deal

I'd retain almost all of them. Letting assets walk for nothing isn't good business.

[Split98]

Ortio, Byron, Colborne, Bouma absolutely.

Considering we have a ludicrous amount of cap space, it;s roster spots we're worried about. TJ has trade value, so I don't see us stuck with him if we decide he's not a part of our future so I'm signing him. I also still see potential in Cundari and Billins, and we're not exactly flush with D prospects so I'm keeping them.

Hanowski, I haven't seen anything worth keeping and I know nothing about Olivier Roy.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

TJ Galiardi
Ben Hanowski
Paul Bryon
Joe Colborne
Lance Bouma
Chad Billins
Mark Cundari
Olivier Roy
Joni Ortio[/URL]

Keepers in bold.

Galiardi can easily be replaced by Reinhart or Knight on the third line. Hell, even Arnold or Agostino could do a better job.

I really like Hanowski. He's a solid character guy. I just don't think you keep him around. He's an average AHLer.

Olivier Roy, again, nice guy, but I'm sure there are goalie options out there that could be a good backup to Ortio or whoever.

With Billins and Cundari, they're two good AHLers and decent fill-in options when injuries happen to the Flames. Plus, I love Cundari's game. He just plays so mean and I love it.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

Keepers in bold.

Galiardi can easily be replaced by Reinhart or Knight on the third line. Hell, even Arnold or Agostino could do a better job.

I really like Hanowski. He's a solid character guy. I just don't think you keep him around. He's an average AHLer.

Olivier Roy, again, nice guy, but I'm sure there are goalie options out there that could be a good backup to Ortio or whoever.

Galiardi was the one I was having trouble with.

He's basically had his worst season as a Pro hockey player. There's nowhere to go but up for him. That's why I went with a 2-way deal, one year, and see how he does.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

I'd retain almost all of them. Letting assets walk for nothing isn't good business.

wasting money on assets that are virtually worth nothing and have little or no chance of improving is also not good for business

[Roof-Daddy]

TJ Galiardi ------------- NHLer qualify
Ben Hanowski --------- Good 1st pro season, qualify
Paul Bryon ------------- NHLer qualify
Joe Colborne ----------- NHLer qualify
Lance Bouma ---------- NHLer qualify
Chad Billins ------------ Good Abby guy at least, qualify
Mark Cundari ---------- Thought no for sure a month ago, but maybe one more year now?
Olivier Roy ------------- Need a back up farm goalie, probably better options out there
Joni Ortio -------------- Qualify for obvious reasons


Only guys I'm on the fence about are Cundari and Roy, rest should be qualified at least IMO.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

wasting money on assets that are virtually worth nothing and have little or no chance of improving is also not good for business

That would obviously depend on whether you feel said assets have little to no chance of improving (ie my previous post on Galiardi).

I feel the majority of this group will continue to develop. Other may disagree, that's the fun of it.

[3rd line Grinder]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Galiardi was the one I was having trouble with.

He's basically had his worst season as a Pro hockey player. There's nowhere to go but up for him. That's why I went with a 2-way deal, one year, and see how he does.

This exactly, I remember when they did this for backlund and it worked wonders. There is potential there, lets just wait and see for a bit longer

[PeteMoss]

Galiardi I've noticed does way better when he plays with good players I've noticed... but there are much better options than him on the top lines and he sucks on the bottom lines. He's a hard guy to figure out.

[Savvy27]

TJ Galiardi - walks
Ben Hanowski - Qualifying Offer
Paul Bryon - 2 year/1 way = ~1.0
Joe Colborne - 2 year/1 way = ~1.2
Lance Bouma - 3 year/1 way = ~1.0
Chad Billins - Qualifying Offer
Mark Cundari - walks
Olivier Roy - Qualifying Offer
Joni Ortio - 2 year/2 way = ~800 000

[Roof-Daddy]

I don't understand why anyone would not want to qualify Galiardi.

I can understand if you don't want to keep him on the team going forward, because there is a ton of bottom six depth moving forward to take his spot.

But IMO, you still qualify him and then look to move him because he has value, you don't just let him "walk".

BTW, by value I mean a mid round pick, like what we gave up to acquire him.

[dino7c]

Hanowski should and will be qualified

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I don't understand why anyone would not want to qualify Galiardi.

I can understand if you don't want to keep him on the team going forward, because there is a ton of bottom six depth moving forward to take his spot.

But IMO, you still qualify him and then look to move him because he has value, you don't just let him "walk".

BTW, by value I mean a mid round pick, like what we gave up to acquire him.

I would let him walk because the Flames have people capable of replacing his contribution to the team and I am less confident that any team is going to give up an asset for him.

Not saying it would be awful to keep him, but the cap, contract, and playing spot could be used on more important pieces going forward.

[getoverit]

TJ Galiardi- let walk or 2 way, rather him not take up a spot
Ben Hanowski- qualify offer-2 way
Paul Bryon- sign 1 way deal- 2 yr
Joe Colborne- sign 1 way deal-3yr
Lance Bouma- sign 1 way 3-4 yr
Chad Billins- qualifying offer- 2way
Mark Cundari- qualifying offer 2 way
Olivier Roy-qualifying offer
Joni Ortio- 2-3 yr sign 2 way

[Loyal and True]

Galiardi is an NHL'er. Definitely qualify.

Not his best season offensively (cheaper to re-sign?).

Extraskater.com suggests he is not as bad as some think.

Might trade him next year (for a 4th) depending on how younger talent develops.

[Enoch Root]

yeah, I think you qualify Galiardi for sure. He didn't have a great year, but he is an NHLer. If he gets knocked off the roster, you try to move him for a pick.

[dammage79]

Colborne , Bouma and Ortio are in for some good deals I think. You don't QO those three.

Definite QO's: Billins, Cundari, Roy, Hanowski.

I have to think Byron gets a good one way deal but that'll mean sacrificing Galiardi.

There's going to be a lot more hens in the hen house so to speak at next camp. I think the Flames can afford to let a few go via trade or simply to not offer a qualifying contract.