Craig's List 2014 Prospects

[snipetype]

Well it's seriously funny because still only ghree person has actually compared Haydn fleury to the other top prospects. One said he was too slow (wrong fleury'a strongest attribute is his skating). Saying he doesn't have top end potential. Yes he does, he's big fast strong smart can really play in all situations. Third someone said because that's the consensus. Wtf? Tell me why break down why dal colle is better. Don't just say he is better. What is it that sets him apart? I have said continually players that are slow and lazy don't belong as top five picks. That's my argument against him. What is your argument about fleury? I'm still unclear.

[The Fonz]

This will never end until everyone on CP agrees that Fleury is the man to target at #5.

So this will never end.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Ok well I am convinced you guys are just a bunch of Steve tambellinis and mctavishs that would have picked yakupov over Murray. Defence wins championships and we have two true top four dman.

Coming here and attacking the board as whole isn't going to get you very far, and it is definitely not going to get the board to engage in a meaningful discussion.

You have brought up very few points as to why you think Fleury is better than 'x' prospects out there. How about you write about him rather than just assuming we will trust you for being a 'superb talent evaluator'.

Character issues with Dal Colle? Poor skating? If these were true, Dal Colle wouldn't be talked about as the 5th best prospect. Kabanov was arguably the 3rd or so most talented player in the 2010 draft, but he fell all the way down to the third round because of his 'character issues'. You will understand if I am a bit skeptical of what you write down, especially considering you have been caught red-handed lying and exaggerating a number of times in the last few pages.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Well it's seriously funny because still only ghree person has actually compared Haydn fleury to the other top prospects. One said he was too slow (wrong fleury'a strongest attribute is his skating). Saying he doesn't have top end potential. Yes he does, he's big fast strong smart can really play in all situations. Third someone said because that's the consensus. Wtf? Tell me why break down why dal colle is better. Don't just say he is better. What is it that sets him apart? I have said continually players that are slow and lazy don't belong as top five picks. That's my argument against him. What is your argument about fleury? I'm still unclear.

Why don't you try the Canucks board I'm sure you'll get more takers on this, and a more realistic draft position

[TheDebaser]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Ok well I am convinced you guys are just a bunch of Steve tambellinis and mctavishs that would have picked yakupov over Murray. Defence wins championships and we have two true top four dman.

I would pick Ekblad first overall because I believe that he will be a great defenseman in this league for half a decade. Maybe even longer.

Let me put it to you this way. I would not trade the 5th overall pick for a young steady 30-40 point 2-4 dman that is already playing in this league. You do not draft those players 5th overall. If you pick 5th overall and you aren't trying to find a Phil Kessel or a Matt Duchene or a Sean Monahan or a Pietrolangelo you're a fool.

Defense doesn't win championships, good hockey teams win championships. I would bet more money on Colorado to win a cup within 5 years than Nashville, and you probably would too.

[AC]

Jesus dude, start a thread about Fleury if you really care.

Nobody can follow your inane ramblings anways.

[snipetype]

Ok I agree there is no guarentee. But I just see nhl player when I watch Haydn fleury play. I don't see that when I watch dal colle. His skating is a concern. I dont see any blaring weaknesses like that in Haydn's game.

[Red John]

Always funny when someone goes full ###### about something inane and random that nobody else was even talking about.

[snipetype]

There are no Sean monahans or Phil kessels available at 5 or 6 in this draft let's be real.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Ok I agree there is no guarentee. But I just see nhl player when I watch Haydn fleury play. I don't see that when I watch dal colle. His skating is a concern. I dont see any blaring weaknesses like that in Haydn's game.

You keep saying that. Why is it that actual scouts don't seem to agree with you?

[ForeverFlameFan]

I think another poll should occur... "Who would you take at the 5th pick?"

There would only be one person that would pick Fleury. Any wild guess CP?

[moon]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Well it's seriously funny because still only ghree person has actually compared Haydn fleury to the other top prospects. One said he was too slow (wrong fleury'a strongest attribute is his skating). Saying he doesn't have top end potential. Yes he does, he's big fast strong smart can really play in all situations. Third someone said because that's the consensus. Wtf? Tell me why break down why dal colle is better. Don't just say he is better. What is it that sets him apart? I have said continually players that are slow and lazy don't belong as top five picks. That's my argument against him. What is your argument about fleury? I'm still unclear.

Who said he was too slow?

Dal Colle is better because he has more skill. He has elite level offensive ability, good size, his shot is way above par and his potential is that he could be a top line Winger in the NHL.

People have told you this but you don't like their answers.

Fleury does not have top pairing potential. He has very limited offensive ability, as mentioned his skating is not at a level that he is able to avoid players in a Niedermayer/Doughty manner, his first pass is nothing more than average for a 1st round pick.

I am sure you will ignore and continue to whine about it but Dal Colle is a better hockey player than Fleury that is what makes him the better choice and better prospect.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by snipetype

Well it's seriously funny because still only ghree person has actually compared Haydn fleury to the other top prospects. One said he was too slow (wrong fleury'a strongest attribute is his skating). Saying he doesn't have top end potential. Yes he does, he's big fast strong smart can really play in all situations. Third someone said because that's the consensus. Wtf? Tell me why break down why dal colle is better. Don't just say he is better. What is it that sets him apart? I have said continually players that are slow and lazy don't belong as top five picks. That's my argument against him. What is your argument about fleury? I'm still unclear.

Good hockey sense
Great shot and release
Great hands
Good skater
Good size and power
200 ft player

He pretty much has the whole package that you want for a scoring winger, and has high top end potential.

And at one point you yourself said Fleury didn't have as high of a top end potential and was a safer pick. Stop bouncing back and forth.

[snipetype]

He could be a pietrangelo.. He's not right now but pietrangelo was drafted in a strong draft. Keep in mind this is a weak draft. 6 this year is like 12 most years.

[moon]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

This will never end until everyone on CP agrees that Fleury is the man to target at #5.

So this will never end.

To tell you the truth I am little shocked the Pens aren't willing to move Crosby and Malkin to get him.

[jg13]

This thread is becoming as bad as the oilers.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Now you are just throwing out random defenseman. You've just quoted about 10 different defenseman that Fleury could possibly become.

[Yoho]

I can't wait till he starts talking in third person for this guy.

"Hayden thinks this"

[Completely]

Originally Posted by snipetype

He could be a pietrangelo.. He's not right now but pietrangelo was drafted in a strong draft. Keep in mind this is a weak draft. 6 this year is like 12 most years.

This doesn't help you're argument. so if hes rated 6th, hes not gonna be even close to Pietrangelo....

[strombad]

Plus, a big mark on Fleury is his offensive prowess according to most. Average shot, below average "vision."

Top end? Seabrook maybe, Bouw if he improves offensively.

I'm taking Dal Colle every damn day over Fleury. I'd guess about 99.99% feel the same.