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nemanja2306 · 03-06-2014, 02:01 AM

Two shrewed moves ease blow from epic failure of not trading Cammalleri

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Brian Burke says there's method behind the madness of not trading Mike Cammalleri at the NHL trade deadline.
Fittingly, no one is buying it.
However, instead of harping on the deal he couldn't get done, Burke saved himself and the Flames from an embarrassing day by cashing in big on two unlikely trading chips #-- Lee Stempniak and Reto Berra.

Epic fail? Really Francis?

Epic fail was Vanek trade(s)...this is hardly the that level of disaster.

Johnson: Biggest NHL trade deadline news for Flames was who stayed put - Cammalleri

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Brian Burke doesn’t anticipate any residue bitterness or gnawing disappointment to compromise these curtain-dropping 21 games.
He doesn’t foresee Michael Cammalleri going into pout mode or slamming on the binders for what’s left of a season or curling up quietly in a fetal position and whimpering softly at the capricious injustice of life.
He expects him to get on with the business.

Flames land draft picks in shipping out Stempniak, Berra

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“I had a great time (in Calgary) — it’s a great organization . . . they gave me my first opportunity to step into the NHL, so I’m really thankful for that,” said Berra. “On the other hand, I’m really excited to go to Colorado — a great team, probably a great city, too. A really famous coach (Patrick Roy), who, when I was a child in Switzerland, was probably one of the biggest (names). I’m excited and happy.”

Rebuilding Flames come out firing against Senators

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Ortio, with 30 saves, was full marks for his first ‘W.’
Centre Markus Granlund, in just his fourth outing at the big-league level, scored his first NHL goal.
Paul Byron, who also started the season with the farm club, had a powerplay tally and even dropped his mitts for a dance with Clarke MacArthur after the Senators sparkplug injured Calgary’s leading point-producer, Jiri Hudler, with a hard hit early in the third period.

Youth takes centre stage and doesn't disappoint

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The Flames, who led 1-0 and 3-0 by periods, also got goals from Paul Byron, 24, and Joe Colborne, 24, who has five points in his last six games.
Michael Cammalleri, overlooked in the afternoon, scored, too.

“The one thing we’ve ingrained is that we’re going to work our butts off,” said Cammalleri, thought to be on his way out of town on trade deadline day. “I thought a lot of our young guys tonight got the ball rolling.

“It was a little bit of an anxious day for sure. It’s the key to life, right? I’m not the Dalai Lama by any means, but you try and stay as present as possible and enjoy everything. I’ve enjoyed it here. Always have. It just takes a second to get your head right.”

Calgary Flames Snapshots: Corban Knight's debut it trade deadline's shadow

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Playing his first NHL game for his hometown wasn’t the only bit of good news for Knight and his proud parents. A few weeks ago, his family was able to move back into their flooded out home in High River, and his father, Jack, was in the stands during the morning skate.
“I tried to focus on the ice, but a couple of times, I glanced over — it was a pretty surreal moment,” added Knight, invoking images of almost every youngster starting out in the game.
“I tried not to wave at him and embarrass myself.”

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Flames head coach Bob Hartley was on his game in his morning media session. When asked whether he expected the forward lines he used in the skate to be his starting lineup in the game, Hartley said, “I always write my lines with a pencil — it’s easy to erase.” He also had a gem when asked whether players are slightly distracted watching for trade deadline news — “They’re all in front of the TVs. They’re like a bunch of kids watching Barney. You can’t even get their attention.” …

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Flames D Ladislav Smid says he was happy to hear that president of hockey operations and interim GM Brian Burke went public early in the day with the news Smid wasn’t going to be traded. “I said it before — I would like to be a part of this rebuild,” Smid said. “I think Brian is going to make some bold moves to make this team better fast. He doesn’t like losing, and neither do we. I’m expecting probably some moves (Wednesday) and some more moves over the summer.”

I have to say, in comparison to Francis, Randy Sportak always has nice things to read. Well done.

Pair of rookies lead Flames past Senators

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Hartley was impressed by his young line-up that included three call ups from the minors earlier in the day.
"The American Hockey League is the best school for a young player. Not only do they play but the mental aspect with all the travelling, three games in three nights. That develops character, that develops pride and once they get here, usually they’re ready," said Hartley. "Those guys contributed very well for us tonight and that’s credit to Troy Ward and his staff at Abby."

icarus · 03-06-2014, 05:37 AM

Great attitude from Smid.

nemanja2306 · 03-06-2014, 06:24 AM

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Great attitude from Smid.

Yup. The Oilers sure could use a guy like him...oh, wait.... Well, at least they got Bryz....oh, no... But at least they got an all-star defense...wait, no they don't... Why did they trade Smid again?

I'd like to see NYI fire Snow, Lowe fire MacT and hire Snow...

killer_carlson · 03-06-2014, 07:43 AM

As much as I'd have liked to see Stajan moved, I sure hope everything is ok with him, his wife and family.

ForeverFlameFan · 03-06-2014, 09:15 AM

Sometimes I feel like we aren't in the rebuild as much as we really are.

Credit Hartley for having us play our butts off in and out of every game.

Credit Ward as well, I don't know what he is doing down there, but all the players I saw today looked NHL ready.

FBI · 03-06-2014, 09:40 AM

I remain positive for Rebuild Year 2, everyone says we're going to crap the bed and be the worst team in the league, but I definitely don't believe it.

saillias · 03-06-2014, 09:51 AM

A lot of ties need to be cut with veteran forwards here in the off-season. TJ Galiardi doesn't need to be qualified and Westgarth obviously. If all the vets are healthy/available last night, Knight doesn't play (Stajan), Reinhart doesn't play (Westgarth), Hanowski doesn't play (Jones) Granlund doesn't play (Glencross) and Byron rotates out of the lineup (Galiardi).

For me personally I would go a bit further and consider flipping Colborne for a pick or young player in the off-season. I don't think he fits here long-term and isn't going to be a guy that helps this team get over the hump and become a contender.

D Jones I would like to see bought out. I know, salary floor. I hope the new GM can weave some creative magic and pick up a good player on a salary dump like Tallon did with Brian Campbell.

Erick Estrada · 03-06-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FBI

I remain positive for Rebuild Year 2, everyone says we're going to crap the bed and be the worst team in the league, but I definitely don't believe it.

Yeah it's been weird hearing how bad the Flames are when they have been competitive all season. HNIC hit an all time low Saturday spending the entire broadcast talking about the Oilers great talent while dismissing the Flames as a Buffalo Sabres type also ran all while ignoring that the Flames were the better team in the standings and dominating the Oilers.

As far as the media is concerned if you don't have a cupboard full of top 5 picked players you are viewed as having no talent in the system despite the fact that virtually every player that's been brought up from Abbotsford this season has acquitted themselves very well and don't look out of place at all.

I really am getting a good feeling that this team is only another solid draft and player acquisition or two from a sharp upswing. Also for the first time in a long time I have faith in management to follow through and not botch things up.

Enoch Root · 03-06-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by saillias

A lot of ties need to be cut with veteran forwards here in the off-season. TJ Galiardi doesn't need to be qualified and Westgarth obviously. If all the vets are healthy/available last night, Knight doesn't play (Stajan), Reinhart doesn't play (Westgarth), Hanowski doesn't play (Jones) Granlund doesn't play (Glencross) and Byron rotates out of the lineup (Galiardi).

For me personally I would go a bit further and consider flipping Colborne for a pick or young player in the off-season. I don't think he fits here long-term and isn't going to be a guy that helps this team get over the hump and become a contender.

D Jones I would like to see bought out. I know, salary floor. I hope the new GM can weave some creative magic and pick up a good player on a salary dump like Tallon did with Brian Campbell.

I agree that he may not fit long term. However, he is still developing and progressing, and we don't have better options at the moment, so I would prefer to keep him for a while.

His value should continue to rise.

The Yen Man · 03-06-2014, 10:00 AM

Say what you will about Burke, I'd much rather have him as the President of Hockey Ops over Kevin Lowe. Smid's probably realizing now just how much of a gong show it was up north after being here this year.

saillias · 03-06-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I agree that he may not fit long term. However, he is still developing and progressing, and we don't have better options at the moment, so I would prefer to keep him for a while.

His value should continue to rise.

Definitely, for me it also depends on how the callups play for the last stretch. They may make some guys expendable.

ComixZone · 03-06-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by saillias

A lot of ties need to be cut with veteran forwards here in the off-season. TJ Galiardi doesn't need to be qualified and Westgarth obviously. If all the vets are healthy/available last night, Knight doesn't play (Stajan), Reinhart doesn't play (Westgarth), Hanowski doesn't play (Jones) Granlund doesn't play (Glencross) and Byron rotates out of the lineup (Galiardi).

For me personally I would go a bit further and consider flipping Colborne for a pick or young player in the off-season. I don't think he fits here long-term and isn't going to be a guy that helps this team get over the hump and become a contender.

D Jones I would like to see bought out. I know, salary floor. I hope the new GM can weave some creative magic and pick up a good player on a salary dump like Tallon did with Brian Campbell.

There's absolutely no harm in leaving Granlund, Reinhart, and Hanowski in the AHL next season - ditto with Arnold, Gaudreau, Agostino and others. Let them continue to develop their games, and have them come up when they're over-ripe.

saillias · 03-06-2014, 10:09 AM

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There's absolutely no harm in leaving Granlund, Reinhart, and Hanowski in the AHL next season - ditto with Arnold, Gaudreau, Agostino and others. Let them continue to develop their games, and have them come up when they're over-ripe.

I suspect our opinions fall on other ends of the spectrum. Agree to disagree, There's a Detroit model that kept Nyqvist in the AHL until this season, and then there's teams like SJ that can constantly trade away top 6 talent because they have that much confidence in their development. I would just prefer the Flames to be run like the latter.

wretched34 · 03-06-2014, 10:10 AM

I like Colborne, think he fits well on the team. He's everything Burke wants.
He's young (24) and huge (6'5" 215lbs) but can actually play hockey and put up points rather than be a goon. A third Line of Bouma-Knight/Reinhart-Colborne would be a solid 3rd line. A lot of size and grit, but can effectively produce points while being solid defensively. Might actually be one of the better 3rd lines in the league once Reinhart or Knight establish themselves.

Scoutski · 03-06-2014, 10:19 AM

Yeah, there was definitely plenty of energy and plenty to be excited about in the game last night.

I agree that I think Colborne fits the Burke mould of big and tough so I expect to see him given a lengthy chance. Hopefully he has a great off season considering this was his first lengthy NHL season and he knows what he needs to do!

Muta · 03-06-2014, 10:26 AM

I really like the way this rebuild is coming along thus far. It seems we're going to be building a team that will see success-by-committee; not necessarily a superstar or two that will single-handedly lead this team.

Monahan, Granlund, Backlund, Reinhart, Knight, Colborne, Ortio, Byron.... this is a great group of talent populating our forward and goaltending ranks. They will be further supplemented in the future by guys like Gaudreau, Arnold, Poirier, Klimchuk, Gillies and whomever our 1st rounder this year will be.

Our defensive depth could use work, and hopefully that's a priority for this club going forward. This draft, plus any potential trades down the line (veterans for almost-ready prospects), hopefully see some focus on the blueline.

Ward is teaching our guys to play a complete game down in Abby; I have a feeling our team is going to see success quicker than Edmonton will, and in 1/5 the time required for a rebuild.

ClubFlames · 03-06-2014, 10:30 AM

I don't think Colborne is tough at all but rather quite the opposite but I still think he definitely has a role moving forward with this team as he has been improving defensively and is learning to use his size to his advantage along the boards. We don't need a crash-and-bang type of Colborne but with his hands he can be an effective 3rd liner C/W who is great in shootouts.

MrMastodonFarm · 03-06-2014, 10:33 AM

Where does Glencross fit in this team moving forward? He seems like such an odd man out now. I'd have to think the Flames try to move him in the off-season. His lackadaisical play doesn't fit in with this team.

Muta · 03-06-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Where does Glencross fit in this team moving forward? He seems like such an odd man out now. I'd have to think the Flames try to move him in the off-season. His lackadaisical play doesn't fit in with this team.

I agree, and I think the draft would be a great time to move him. The team seems to be succeeding without him; I'm not sure he really needs to fit into our future plans.

That said, I'm sure Glenny's value around the league is pretty good. He's on a great contract, he's a solid two-way, gritty player that can put the puck in the net. Others teams aren't privy to this.

If he waives his NMC, moving him could be really valuable for us going forward.

Erick Estrada · 03-06-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Where does Glencross fit in this team moving forward? He seems like such an odd man out now. I'd have to think the Flames try to move him in the off-season. His lackadaisical play doesn't fit in with this team.

He has become a forgotten man. Only he can dictate the situation with his NTC but if the team is frank with him that he's not part of the long term plans he may accept a move with only one year left on his deal. We have seen when he wants to be that he can become a useful player but whether he's ticked off about not getting the captaincy or playing on a losing team he just looked uninterested earlier in the season prior to injury. If he really wants to remain a Flame he needs to start showing it with his play and I sense he will have a better season next year being a contract year for him.