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Old 02-04-2014, 03:19 PM   #1201
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Does anyone know any lawyers??

Seriously though, I don't know what the liability would be. I just thought I was being a polite neighbour shoveling before I left for the day.
The bylaw states that the snow must be cleared 24 hours after it falls. I would think you would only be liable if you left it longer than that. I am certainly not a lawyer, but the time of day you shovel the snow shouldn't factor into whether or not you are going to get sued.

I find it really pays to be a good neighbor, and I clear the sidewalk for the houses directly beside mine as well as my own. It greatly reduces the amount of times I need to do it, because if the neighbor manages to get out there first they will also clear mine. It also prevents any of us from having to scrape or chip packed or frozen snow.

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Old 02-04-2014, 03:23 PM   #1202
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I thought it had to be cleared within 48 hours.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:29 PM   #1203
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I shovel my walk the first time I walk across it. I don't care if it is still snowing, or it is 1am when I am coming home at 1am from a Thursday night nerd-fest or 6am when I am walking out the door to get to work.

The rest of the time, my 4 year old does it.

I think that the small amount of noise it makes for my neighbours is countered by the fact that I typically shovel down 2 houses on one side and 1 house on the other, combined with the fact that they won't need to worry about slipping on the packed snow/ice in front of my place.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:30 PM   #1204
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I thought it had to be cleared within 48 hours.
From http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation...alks-FAQs.aspx

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If a property owner or occupant does not remove snow and ice from a sidewalk adjacent to their property within 24 hours of a snowfall, The City of Calgary Animal & Bylaw Services may issue a warning notice directing the property owner or occupant to clear the sidewalk within a certain period of time.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:49 PM   #1205
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I'll shovel any time between 5:30am and 11pm, and never think twice, and I think most others are in the same boat.
I think most others are sleeping at 530 and 11. Maybe not a big deal if you have a small area to shovel.

I'm on a corner - if any my neighbors shovel around the intersection, you could hear "scrape scrape scrape" for 45 - 60 mins. I wouldn't play my guitar at those times.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:04 PM   #1206
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My wife's parents had put away money for her, and all her life mentioned it was for a house or wedding. When the time came we decided we wanted to use the money towards moving to a house from our apartment instead of having a wedding, they then said it had to be used on a wedding or we would not be getting it. Fun times!
Ouch, you have me beat. That sucks.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:23 PM   #1207
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The neighbour across the street from me has had a giant bag of soil (the huge tote bags) of soil on their lawn for the past three years. I am assuming they bought it to top dress their lawn or fill gardens or what ever but they have never gotten around to spreading it. So it sits in the ugly a$$ bag on their front lawn.

I was thinking of posting it on Kijiji in the spring " Free Soil, bring your shovel and help yourself"
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:33 PM   #1208
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I still don't understand those that shovel while it is still snowing. You are just going to have to do it again, so why not do it once?
Can't speak for normal snowfall, but when it gets heavy I will shovel while it is still snowing before it gets too heavy.

I would rather shovel twice but less snow than the big pile after the weather moves on.
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Can't speak for normal snowfall, but when it gets heavy I will shovel while it is still snowing before it gets too heavy.

I would rather shovel twice but less snow than the big pile after the weather moves on.
Definitely. A few minutes twice or 3 times a day with light snow is much better than half an hour once a day of heavy snow. Sure you go out more but ends up being faster in the end
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:58 PM   #1210
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Minor gear-grinder, but I hate when my wife does the dishes and puts the silverware into the little tray in the dishwasher completely randomly. When I do the dishes I always put all the forks together, spoons together, etc. That way when you empty it you can just grab them all at the same time and put them away quickly and efficiently. It takes the same amount of time to put them into the dishwasher in order as it does to do it randomly, but saves time emptying it.
Get rid of the utensil organizer, and you can fill the DW however you want, then take it out and dump the whole thing in the drawer when it's clean.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:42 PM   #1211
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Definitely. A few minutes twice or 3 times a day with light snow is much better than half an hour once a day of heavy snow. Sure you go out more but ends up being faster in the end
I don't see how it could be faster. You are covering the same ground 2-3 x. Extra snow doesn't make the job that much longer. It won't be light snow every time you go out.

I also forgive anyone for not shovelling tonight when is is under -20 C. It can wait until tomorrow.

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I don't see how it could be faster. You are covering the same ground 2-3 x. Extra snow doesn't make the job that much longer. It won't be light snow every time you go out.

I also forgive anyone for not shovelling tonight when is is under -20 C. It can wait until tomorrow.
Imagine oatmeal. You could clean two or even three freshly dirtied bowls and spoons in the same amount of time as if you had tried to clean one bowl that had been left for a few hours. That's how snow works.
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I don't see how it could be faster. You are covering the same ground 2-3 x. Extra snow doesn't make the job that much longer. It won't be light snow every time you go out.

I also forgive anyone for not shovelling tonight when is is under -20 C. It can wait until tomorrow.
On a larger snowfall, like the ones we saw in December, it makes things a ton easier. Plus you can throw the snow further into the yard to prevent a wall of snow from forming right at the edge of your walk.

If it was like it was yesterday, once is enough.
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Im surprised troutman is on the other end of this argument, normally he takes the logical side to arguments here.

Shoveling twice while its light enough to push around is miles easier and quicker than 1 heavy load that has to be thrown every couple feet.
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Get rid of the utensil organizer, and you can fill the DW however you want, then take it out and dump the whole thing in the drawer when it's clean.
I like this idea, do the sorting as you need things.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:08 PM   #1216
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Put me in the "shovel more often in really heavy snowfall" camp.

Although I'm also in the "shovel whenever I need to" camp. Working 12 hours shifts, it's before or after work, so prior to 7am on a weekend, or after 9pm on a weeknight is entirely likely. Not everyone has a 9-5, and I'm not going to drive over a foot of snow before I shovel.

However I have no idea how people find a shovel that noise-intrusive. Lawn mowers, snow blowers, fine, but I can barely hear my own driveway being shovelled (and the house is not that sound-proof).

Lastly, sleeping with ear-plugs and a white noise generator FTW. You could drive a backhoe through my front door and I'd likely sleep through it.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #1217
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I shovel whenever as much as possible. I shovel my driveway as well as 3 of my neighbours. Two travel and the other is a single mom with 5 kids so I try to get it done while it's quick and easy. When there is less snow on the ground there is less to push so I can go across the driveway without overflow.
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I still don't understand why some municipalities don't clear their own property (sidewalks). It must suck for the seniors stuck having to clear huge amounts of snow off their sidewalks after big storms on a regular basis.
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That it took me disappearing from the board for a year before I finally got a damn custom user title!
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Should I watch the Twilight Zone again?

I love doing without cable, but sometimes I run out of stuff.
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