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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #341
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Bouwmeester is below average defensively against NHL teams, let alone Olympic teams. He does not have a good defensive IQ.

He natural skating and reach has (sorta) helped bail him out over his career. He will be eaten alive in this tournament.

I seriously hope he is the 7th D. At least Nash and Marleau have won at the international level (and they probably won't dress anyways)

Bouwmeester playing real minutes for this team should terrify everyone in Canada!
Have you watched Bouwmeester since he joined St. Louis? He is having an amazing year and there's no way he doesn't deserve to be on Team Canada.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #342
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Does anyone have the whole list typed out? I didn't get to watch as I'm at work.
Forwards
Jamie Benn
Patrice Bergeron
Jeff Carter
Sidney Crosby
Matt Duchene
Ryan Getzlaf
Chris Kunitz
Patrick Marleau
Rick Nash
Cory Perry
Patrick Sharp
John Tavares
Jonathan Toews
Steven Stamkos

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Jay Bouwmeester
Drew Doughty
Dan Hamhuis
Duncan Keith
Alex Pietrangelo
PK Subban
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Shea Weber


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Roberto Luongo
Carey Price
Mike Smith
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #343
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Bouwmeester is below average defensively against NHL teams, let alone Olympic teams. He does not have a good defensive IQ.
Not this year, not even close at all. Throw in his skating and the bigger ice and he's far from the worst defensively on this team.

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Bouwmeester playing real minutes for this team should terrify everyone in Canada!
Has worked out well enough for the Blues.

No one who has watched him in St. Louis thought he should be left off. He was a lock at this point.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #344
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There's no doubt that Yzerman and Co. micromanaged and watched a lot of film on these guys so it's their vision of the best team for the big ice. That said I don't like this team and feel this is not much different than NFL draft type micromanagement where they are overly nitpicking minor flaws of better players left off the team.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #345
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Not a fan of this team.

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #346
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #347
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Too many cooks in the kitchen. St.Louis /Giroux / Thornton >> Marleau / Kunitz /Carter. They messed this up.
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Why do people hate on Carter? He isn't that flashy, on a strong team in the west, a wicked sneaky shot, big body, and plays defensive hockey under D. Sutter

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I seriously hope he is the 7th D. At least Nash and Marleau have won at the international level (and they probably won't dress anyways)
Bouwmeester has won at the international level as well.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:37 AM   #350
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So who plays center? I have Crosby, Tavares, Toews and Bergeron.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:37 AM   #351
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Not a fan of the Nash pick. Kunitz will be a scrutinized pick for sure.
Kunitz has such great chemistry with Crosby that he is undeniable, in my opinion.

Nash? Yeah, he's been bad this season. No reason to believe he won't pull it together for the Olympics. Great talents have a history of going to the Rangers and shiznitting the bed.

St. Louis & Giroux vs Carter & Nash? Skill vs size... I guess they're banking on Crosby being enough smallish, high-end skill for the whole team.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:38 AM   #352
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He natural skating and reach has (sorta) helped bail him out over his career. He will be eaten alive in this tournament. I seriously hope he is the 7th D. At least Nash and Marleau have won at the international level (and they probably won't dress anyways)
His skating and outlet pass are precisely why he's an asset in this tournament and he'll be playing beside Pietrangelo so no, he won't be the 7th D or the 8th. I suspect the 8th will be Vlasic or Hamhuis.

Meanwhile, Claude Giroux is Canada's Bobby Ryan.
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Honestly. I'd rather have Hall on the team than Nash.
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I agree but that doesn't it make it the exact opposite of a homer pick? Homer generally means that you only think they should be there because theyre on your favorite team. Gio very well could have been on the team on his own merit, which we seem to agree on.
Yes saying Gio should be on the team is not a homer pick.

Saying it was a stupid/bad decision or that Hamhuis is a bad pick is a homer call.
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Carter is the one that surprises me the most.

Nash and Marleau have played huge roles at the Olyimpics before, and Kunitz/Sharpe are both playing great and have Toews and Crosby chemistry.

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:39 AM   #356
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no Richards surprises me, who's going to kill penalties?
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Personally would have gone with Giroux over Nash, but in a 3rd line shutdown road, Nash will do the job.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:39 AM   #358
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Bouwmeester is the worst player to make this team.

And I am not even kidding.



Bouwmeester is below average defensively against NHL teams, let alone Olympic teams. He does not have a good defensive IQ.

He natural skating and reach has (sorta) helped bail him out over his career. He will be eaten alive in this tournament.

I seriously hope he is the 7th D. At least Nash and Marleau have won at the international level (and they probably won't dress anyways)

Bouwmeester playing real minutes for this team should terrify everyone in Canada!
He's right up there in points, and has the highest +/- of any defenseman on the team.
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I get that Marleau is a good skater and versatile but he's one of those guys that usually comes up small in the playoffs. Not a clutch guy and I would have taken St. Louis over him.
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Bouwmeester is below average defensively against NHL teams, let alone Olympic teams. He does not have a good defensive IQ.

He natural skating and reach has (sorta) helped bail him out over his career. He will be eaten alive in this tournament.

I seriously hope he is the 7th D. At least Nash and Marleau have won at the international level (and they probably won't dress anyways)

Bouwmeester playing real minutes for this team should terrify everyone in Canada!
Bouwmeester has won gold internationally more than once and scored a championship winning goal in '04. Educate yourself a little.
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