Surprising. Not because Granlund isn't excellent. He shows poise that comes from playing with men, and he's good all around, but I would have still gone with Street. He's one of the AHLs best this season.
I think Granlund is waiver exempt as well? All the rookies?
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Surprising. Not because Granlund isn't excellent. He shows poise that comes from playing with men, and he's good all around, but I would have still gone with Street. He's one of the AHLs best this season.
I think Granlund is waiver exempt as well? All the rookies?
Heat have scored 106 regulation or overtime goals this season.
43 of those (41%) have been scored by an AHL rookie.
19 of those (18%) have been scored by an AHL sophomore.
62/106 Heat goals (59%) have been scored by a 1st or 2nd year AHL pro.
Also, 18/22 Heat wins were with a 1st year AHLer in net (Berra with 4, and Ortio with 14)
Thanks for this. I made me curious about the make-up of the team with regards to how everyone was acquired (all stats current to the end of December 28, 2013)...
First looking at the goalies:
The Heat have had 4 goalies see action this season.
Ortio and Brossoit were drafted by the Flames. Berra was acquired in a trade prior to playing his first North American pro game. MacDonald was a Flames' waiver claim, signed to an extension last season.
After last night, Ortio has now played more than 50% of all minutes for the Heat this season. MacDonald and Berra have each played a little less than a quarter of the total minutes, and Brossoit is dead to us now, but played a little under 5% of the minutes.
Now, to the skaters. I broke everyone down into different categories (those in red have had a call-up to Calgary this season)...
Free agent signing prior to player's first North American pro game: Jooris, Elson, Breen, Eddy, Martin
Trade prior to player's first NA pro game: Knight, Hanowski, Horak
Free agent signing after player's first NA pro game: Billins, Street, Smith
Trade after player's first NA pro game: Cundari, Byron, Jones, MacDermid
There are also 10 players who have suited up for the Heat who are not on NHL contracts: Olson, Bancks, Lamb, Arsene, MacKenzie, Lafranchise, McKelvie, Connolly, Sivak, Lyon
Now, for the statistical breakdown...
Total (skaters only): 612 GP, 110 G, 197 A, 307 P
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Drafted 176 33 48 81
FA pre pro 70 5 12 17
Trade pre pro 80 22 36 58
FA after pro 61 23 36 59
Trade after pro 75 16 31 47
NHL contracts 462 99 163 262
AHL contract 150 11 34 45
Percentages of totals:
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Drafted 28.76% 30.00% 24.37% 26.38%
FA pre pro 11.44% 4.55% 6.09% 5.54%
Trade pre pro 13.07% 20.00% 18.27% 18.89%
FA after pro 9.97% 20.91% 18.27% 19.22%
Trade after pro 12.25% 14.55% 15.74% 15.31%
NHL contracts 75.49% 90.00% 82.74% 85.34%
AHL contracts 24.51% 10.00% 17.26% 14.66%
I have no idea how those numbers compare to other teams, or past Heat teams, but it's good to see that players who likely have a future in Calgary are contributing well in Abbotsford.
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Great work getbak. So basically Knight and Hanowski have provided a little less than 20% of the Heat's offense (minus Horak's contributions). That's wonderful to hear.
Great work getbak. So basically Knight and Hanowski have provided a little less than 20% of the Heat's offense (minus Horak's contributions). That's wonderful to hear.
Kudos Feaster. Kudos.
I was surprised to see that Knight is the only player who has played in all 34 games so far. Hanowski and Olson are the only ones at 33.
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Nice work getbak. Like you mentioned, I don't have any idea either how it stacks up to other teams or past teams, but I thought it was really impressive that such a large percentage of Heat goals were scored by 1st or 2nd year AHL pros.
Crazy to think that from the end of this season and into next season the Heat could very well add Gaudreau, Agostino, Arnold, Gordon, Kulak, Culkin and Gillies, all talented players who will be pushing hard for ice time.
Like them or not, Feaster and Weisbrod sure tossed a lot of mud at the wall.
Yup, this is true. An outlier to this is goalies who signed as a 20 year old, get 4 years of waiver protection, so Ortio won't be on an ELC next season but will still be waiver protected.
College and other players who are signed as older players gets confusing.
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curious for those that more actively follow the AHL, is Ortio still considered a rookie in that league? Wondering if he is getting any rookie awards/praise.
curious for those that more actively follow the AHL, is Ortio still considered a rookie in that league? Wondering if he is getting any rookie awards/praise.
Yes, he's still a rookie. No awards yet though.
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I have no idea how those numbers compare to other teams, or past Heat teams, but it's good to see that players who likely have a future in Calgary are contributing well in Abbotsford.
okay, I'll bite ... I did this for the last 3 Calder Cup champions. Didn't filter the AHL contracts though, that was too much work ... plus it sometimes changed during the season (for example, Cory Conacher started the season on an AHL contract with Norfolk, then signed an NHL contract in January). So for that reason, the AHL contracts are included.
BINGHAMTON SENATORS (CALDER CUP CHAMPIONS 2010-11)
Free agent signing prior to player's first North American pro game: D. Smith, Butler, Dziurzynski, Schira, Cannone, Matheson, Brisebois
Trade prior to player's first NA pro game: nobody
Free agent signing after player's first NA pro game: Locke, Benoit, Keller, Kinrade, Sweetland, Hale, Lessard, Coulombe, Anderson, Gordon, Snetsinger, Tifu, Spencer, Sloane, Turner
Trade after player's first NA pro game: Potulny, Bailey
Total (skaters only): 1425 GP, 254 G, 445 A, 699 P
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Drafted 671 124 202 326
FA pre pro 267 42 80 122
Trade pre pro 0 0 0 0
FA after pro 431 83 158 241
Trade after pro 56 5 5 10
Percentage of totals:
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Drafted 47.08% 48.82% 45.39% 46.64%
FA pre pro 18.74% 16.53% 17.98% 17.45%
Trade pre pro 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
FA after pro 30.25% 32.68% 35.51% 34.48%
Trade after pro 3.93% 1.97% 1.12% 1.43%
Free agent signing prior to player's first North American pro game: Johnson, Devos, Jackson, Landry
Trade prior to player's first NA pro game: nobody
Free agent signing after player's first NA pro game: Conacher, Smith, Labrie, Ouellet, Angelidis, Picard, Fornataro, Dimmen, Cote, Wyman, Vernace, Neilson, Pelech, Haines, Ludwig, Petiot, Brutlag
Trade after player's first NA pro game: Kostka, Oberg, Segal, Aulie, Kalinski
Total (skaters only): 1368 GP, 270 G, 471 A, 741 P
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Drafted 409 78 140 218
FA pre pro 216 38 68 106
Trade pre pro 0 0 0 0
FA after pro 633 135 214 349
Trade after pro 110 19 49 68
Percentage of totals:
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Drafted 29.90% 28.89% 29.72% 29.42%
FA pre pro 15.79% 14.07% 14.44% 14.30%
Trade pre pro 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
FA after pro 46.27% 50.00% 45.44% 47.10%
Trade after pro 8.04% 7.04% 10.40% 9.18%
Free agent signing prior to player's first North American pro game: Pare, Billins, Parkes, Raedeke, Lashoff, Coetzee
Trade prior to player's first NA pro game: nobody
Free agent signing after player's first NA pro game: Hoggan, Paetsch, Glendening, Skinner, Grant, Evans, Spady, Knuble, Lampl, Mitera, Colaiacovo
Trade after player's first NA pro game: nobody
Total (skaters only): 1368 GP, 229 G, 379 A, 608 P
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Drafted 724 149 216 365
FA pre pro 256 40 65 105
Trade pre pro 0 0 0 0
FA after pro 388 40 98 138
Trade after pro 0 0 0 0
Percentage of totals:
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Drafted 52.92% 65.06% 56.99% 60.03%
FA pre pro 18.71% 17.47% 17.15% 17.27%
Trade pre pro 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
FA after pro 28.37% 17.47% 25.86% 22.70%
Trade after pro 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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Interesting. So, the Heat are about on par with the Admirals (who were Tampa's team at the time IIRC), but well below where the Senators (Ottawa) and Griffins (Detroit) were as far as Drafted players on their AHL rosters.
One thing I noticed when putting the Heat list together is that Ortio is the only player from the 2009 Draft still in the organization. Nemisz, Bouma, and Brodie are still left from 2008. Backlund is the oldest Flames Draft pick who is still around. He is the only one left from 2007, and no one from an earlier draft is still with the Flames.
They seem to have been turning things around since the 2010 Draft, so hopefully the drafted percentages go up.
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