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Old 12-16-2013, 11:52 AM   #1
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Moore had told the radio reporter that it isn't up to the federal government to help children who don't have enough to eat.
He said British Columbia's child poverty rates aren't the responsibility of the federal government, and it won't "usurp" the province.
"Is it the government's job — my job to feed my neighbour's child? I don't think so," Moore said
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It is a ridiculous 'story' that completely takes a comment out of context."
The reporter then released the raw audio so people could get the context which showed that his tone/tenor was far worse than the bare text.

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That James Moore quote was totally out of context!! It should have read "Is it my job to feed my neighbour's child? I don't think so. HAHAHA!!"
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In response to a question from a reporter last week, I made an insensitive comment that I deeply regret. I apologize.
I think the reason Harper keeps his MPs on a short leash is because if you let them open their mouths, they tend to say what they stand for.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:54 AM   #2
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So whose job is it to feed your neighbor's child?
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:55 AM   #3
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So whose job is it to feed your neighbor's child?
Everyone's. Especially the government. It's a child, not a fully capable adult.
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How does a child go hungry in Canada? Aren't there enough social safety nets to ensure this doesn't happen?
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How does a child go hungry in Canada? Aren't there enough social safety nets to ensure this doesn't happen?


I think you would be surprised. As friend of ours volunteers at our kids school. They have a breakfast/lunch program, and it is beyond capacity.

Sadly, this is a common situation.



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At 15.1 per cent, Canada’s child poverty rate is over four percentage points higher than the 17-country average. More than one in seven Canadian children live in poverty. Canada ranks 15th on this indicator and scores a “C” grade.

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Everyone's. Especially the government. It's a child, not a fully capable adult.
I disagree with your "everyone's" response.

Having a child is a personal choice. Why should I, or you, or anyone else, be obligated to expend our own funds and efforts to care for someone that we had no choice in creating?

If your neighbor can't feed their child*, perhaps the neighbor shouldn't have had the child in the first place.


* I'm not talking about short-term money problems, where a family is in need of food assistance for a few months because a parent got injured or laid off and the parent is scrambling to get a job; I'm referring to where a family has more offspring than they can reasonably afford to manage or where a family essentially uses government support as their job.
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I disagree with your "everyone's" response.

Having a child is a personal choice. Why should I, or you, or anyone else, be obligated to expend our own funds and efforts to care for someone that we had no choice in creating?

If your neighbor can't feed their child*, perhaps the neighbor shouldn't have had the child in the first place.


I'm referring to where a family has more offspring than they can reasonably afford to manage or where a family essentially uses government support as their job.

So in the situation you describe above, we let the kids go hungry?
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How many kids go hungry because their parent's are spending social assistance on essentials like cigarettes and alcohol? At times I wish we had a food stamp program so money meant to provide for children doesn't end up in VLTs or the Casino.
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So in the situation you describe above, we let the kids go hungry?
That is what he is suggesting. Well, until an abortion time machine is invited.
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Having a child is a personal choice. Why should I, or you, or anyone else, be obligated to expend our own funds and efforts to care for someone that we had no choice in creating?
I agree with this, even if it comes off as insensitive. But I don't care.

I have no sympathy for people that have too many kids, and not enough resources to be able to support them properly.

What the hell did they think was going to happen?

That said, if they exist, you can't just ignore them now. You gotta help where you can because they're human too.
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I agree with this, even if it comes off as insensitive. But I don't care.

I have no sympathy for people that have too many kids, and not enough resources to be able to support them properly.

What the hell did they think was going to happen?
You can't be blamed for being born, which is essentially what that argument makes. No one volunteered to be born, especially to loser parents.
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I agree with this, even if it comes off as insensitive. But I don't care.

I have no sympathy for people that have too many kids, and not enough resources to be able to support them properly.

What the hell did they think was going to happen?

That's all well and good, but are you willing to let children starve?
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Of course child poverty is rampant! Our draconian laws prohibit them from getting jobs and being productive members of society.

Get them mining coal or something and then they'll be able to afford food!
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You can't be blamed for being born, which is essentially that argument makes. No one volunteered to be born, especially to loser parents.
That's why I edited my post with more. You can't be blamed for being born, but you can sure blame the parents for introducing a child into the world they aren't prepared to properly support. If you can't support them... don't have a kid.
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That's why I edited my post with more. You can't be blamed for being born, but you can sure blame the parents for introducing a child into the world they aren't prepared to properly support. If you can't support them... don't have a kid.
Which I agree with, but how do we stop stupid people from breeding? That's been the billion dollar question since the dawn of man.
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Which I agree with, but how do we stop stupid people from breeding? That's been the billion dollar question since the dawn of man.


Starve their offspring, there by killing off the genes.....
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This is going to launch into an intensive philosophical debate.

Just gonna say we have a government to take care of it's people. Yes, even little Jimmy next door deserves to get funding if he's poor because we have an elected system in place by the people for the people. Maybe it's not what you want as an individual, but who cares because it's majority rule.
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Which I agree with, but how do we stop stupid people from breeding? That's been the billion dollar question since the dawn of man.
Give the kid an IQ test at 5 years old, before he can locate his dongo. If he's under a certain score, snip him.
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