I don't watch enough of anything online to know how streaming works for national broadcasts. But if a game is available nationally, is it naive of me to assume that it could also be streamed on TSN currently, or Sportsnet in the future, if that's how you choose to watch it instead of through a TV subscription?
I don't watch enough of anything online to know how streaming works for national broadcasts. But if a game is available nationally, is it naive of me to assume that it could also be streamed on TSN currently, or Sportsnet in the future, if that's how you choose to watch it instead of through a TV subscription?
It could, but it isn't, because it would be nowhere near as profitable. That would totally change the structure of how cable companies run their business.
Streaming games on tsn.ca or sportsnet.ca is essentially an "a la carte" model, which is great for the consumer, but not as profitable for Rogers..not to mention that it would absolutely kill a lot of the TV channels currently in existance.
I don't watch enough of anything online to know how streaming works for national broadcasts. But if a game is available nationally, is it naive of me to assume that it could also be streamed on TSN currently, or Sportsnet in the future, if that's how you choose to watch it instead of through a TV subscription?
CBC currently streams all their national broadcasts on cbcsports.ca for free.
TSN AFAIK has never streamed an NHL game. Don't think they ever negotiated the rights to it.
How sportsnet does it is anyone's guess... they might follow the model a lot of cable channels in the US do where you have to log in with your cable/satellite customer number (i.e. prove that you pay for their channels) to watch online for free.
Yeah..its a bit of a run on sentence..my apologies. What I'm driving at is that this deal not only gives rogers exclusive rights to Canadian content on TV, but more importantly total control of game centre. I believe that Rogers will probably remove the games, not simply black them out, but actually remove the Canadian games from NHL game centre. My belief is that, eventually, they will only make the games available through a sports net subscription and with an added fee to remove the blackouts. They've already alluded to this today.
OK, now I get it.
I dunno, the impression I got is that the Rogers service would be an in-between kind of service. I can't see games being pulled from CI and GC entirely, not with the comments from the NHL and Rogers in the conference. I would see it more breaking down like this:
Standard Access - view national and regional games on TV with subscription, or online through streaming service
Enhanced Access - same as standard, plus watch out of market Canadian regional games on TV with Rogers pay service, or online stream regionally locked out games through Rogers Game Center "Canada" or "Lite" (whatever they end up calling it)
Full Access - same as standard+enhanced, plus watch all out of market games on TV with CI, or online stream all games not nationally or regionally locked out with GC
I don't see a scenario where you would have to buy GC and Roger's online service to stream all out of market games. Or where you would have to buy CI and Roger's pay service to watch all out of market games on TV.
How sportsnet does it is anyone's guess... they might follow the model a lot of cable channels in the US do where you have to log in with your cable/satellite customer number (i.e. prove that you pay for their channels) to watch online for free.
CBC currently streams all their national broadcasts on cbcsports.ca for free.
TSN AFAIK has never streamed an NHL game. Don't think they ever negotiated the rights to it.
How sportsnet does it is anyone's guess... they might follow the model a lot of cable channels in the US do where you have to log in with your cable/satellite customer number (i.e. prove that you pay for their channels) to watch online for free.
Out of thanks, but I appreciate the info.
Just my impression, but based on what was said today I expect Rogers will be streaming the national broadcast games as well. No idea how they plan on monetizing that, or if I'm way out to lunch. It's just what a took away from the presser.
I dunno, the impression I got is that the Rogers service would be an in-between kind of service. I can't see games being pulled from CI and GC entirely, not with the comments from the NHL and Rogers in the conference. I would see it more breaking down like this:
Standard Access - view national and regional games on TV with subscription, or online through streaming service
Enhanced Access - same as standard, plus watch out of market Canadian regional games on TV with Rogers pay service, or online stream regionally locked out games through Rogers Game Center "Canada" or "Lite" (whatever they end up calling it)
Full Access - same as standard+enhanced, plus watch all out of market games on TV with CI, or online stream all games not nationally or regionally locked out with GC
I don't see a scenario where you would have to buy GC and Roger's online service to stream all out of market games. Or where you would have to buy CI and Roger's pay service to watch all out of market games on TV.
We'll see how it plays out over time.
I would love it if they allowed for the on-line streaming of games. I don't see it happening without a cable subscription. I hope I'm wrong.
I would love it if they allowed for the on-line streaming of games. I don't see it happening without a cable subscription. I hope I'm wrong.
Yeah, it's definitely the piece I know the least about. I can't say I blame you for being skeptical that it'll be simply a matter of navigating to sportsnet in your browser and pressing play. We shall see!
This probably means the end of Rob Kerr, Eric Francis etc on Flames games next year? I imagine they will want to professionalize those broadcasts. Roger Millions and Charlie Simmer aren't bad, they might stay i guess.
If they keep their panels the way it is, I know I for one will pretty much only watch the games, and skip the intermissions.
I honestly can't envision a game without Mackenzie's poignant information at the breaks. Outside of Friedman I can't think of a guy I actually like on TSN/Sportsnet, that includes most of their play-by-play guys and commentators as well.
They'll be irrelevant next june, in a couple of years they might be gone completely.
I'm not too sure about that. I suspect they'll regroup around the regional rights that they currently own and expand them when the deals expire. In the meantime TSN probably gonna have to expand into some of the sports that Sportsnet isn't gonna be able to cover like Tennis. Also important is that CTV is by far the strongest broadcast network in Canada, and Bell also owns the strongest group of cable channels so that might help them prop up TSN.
TSN still has regional rights for the Jets and Canadiens, so the song will be used there. Also, this means anyone who cheers for Montreal and Winnipeg should save their money when it comes to Sportsnet's Centre Ice Lite. You won't be a part of it.
The rights for the regional Habs games ends after this season. The Jets regional rights go on until the end of the 20-21 season. TSN will have Leafs regional rights for 10 to 16 games next season and 26 games after that.
SCOTIABANK WEDNESDAY NIGHT HOCKEY doubleheader:
Toronto @ Pittsburgh on Wednesday, Nov. 27 at 7:30 p.m. ET on TSN; Gord Miller (play-by-play) and Ray Ferraro (analyst)
In-game: The Scotiabank Wednesday Night Quiz with host James Duthie, Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, and analysts Aaron Ward and Paul Maurice. Plus, Hockey Insider Darren Dreger appears in the second intermission.
Chicago @ Calgary on Wednesday, Nov. 27 at 10 p.m. ET on TSN; Chris Cuthbert (play-by-play) and Mike Johnson (analyst)
In-game: Panel with host James Duthie, Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, and analysts Aaron Ward and Paul Maurice
Ottawa @ Washington on Wednesday, Nov. 27 at 7 p.m. ET on TSN2
Notice how there is no mention of the commentators for the Senators game. I have a feeling that TSN2 is going to use the Capitals feed for this game. Joe Benanti is awful. This happened with some Oilers and Sens games in the past. TSN, the stupid network and good riddance to TSN.
I am not sure why TSN would be gone in a few years. They still have a ton of other content, Sportscenter is light years ahead of Connected, their talent (even if they lose some) is still lightyears ahead of Sportsnet, they have a deal with ESPN that gives them solid programming and Sportsnet survived without hockey and morons running it so TSN should be fine with actual intelligent people running it.
Sportsnet has shown in the past the care about going cheap rather than getting actual talented people in place so it will be interesting to see if they do take some of the good people from TSN or go with the god awful people they already have in place.
Principe, Quinn or Kerr involved in a national broadcast would be a nightmare. DeBrusk and Garrett's super homerism would not translate well at all to a national game and Simmer puts people to sleep on the local broadcast.
Hard to see this as anything but a huge downgrade based on what we have seen from Sportsnet on all their programming not just hockey. Up to this point there has been nothing they do remotely close to as well as TSN so hopefully that improves a lot.
