UPD: Klesla clears waivers and D'Agostini claimed by Buffalo

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Edmonton is at 49 contracts and plenty of cap room.

They could pick him up without much issue.

Edmonton does not have the cap room. Capgeek doesn't show the bonus cushion correctly. You are only allowed to have X dollars of bonuses defferred on the cap. The Oilers exceed that amount therefore the some of the bonuses count on this years caps. So they are actually out of cap space after the Bryz signing.

I posted the exact details somewhere in the Bryz signing thread but I am too lazy to go back and link. If you look at the footnotes in capgeek it explains the situation as well.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Drury18

They've got ballpark $7 and Rusty is $3M. It's not too bad.

They have 7 mill space, with bonuses that could be up to 9+ mill, no?

I dont think the 57 mill on capgeek accounts for bonuses.

can anyone confirm?

EDIT: ^^^^ this guy.

[thymebalm]

Klesla has #GRITCHART written all over him. Will be surprised if Burke and Feaster let him pass through waiver given their fascination with size.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

They have 7 mill space, with bonuses that could be up to 9+ mill, no?

I dont think the 57 mill on capgeek accounts for bonuses.

can anyone confirm?

That's with bonuses from what I can figure. They are $9M without, $7M with.

[Stay Golden]

Distract the Edmonton brain trust with a ball of string.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Drury18

They've got ballpark $7 and Rusty is $3M. It's not too bad.

From Capgeek's website:

All 2013-14 numbers are estimates based on the best transaction information available. Averaged performance bonus amounts are completely rolled back, meaning teams potentially exceeding the bonus cushion (Boston, Edmonton, Colorado, Florida) may have less cap space than indicated.

The Oilers don't have as much cap space as you think if you just read the cap charts on capgeek... maybe only $2 million. They may be able to fight him in if they demote someone... not sure.

[Wolfman]

Claim him Feaster. Stay at home defenseman, gritty. Both things we lack on the back end. Don't care if he's 31 or not. 2.975m is cheap too. Smid and Klesla would be an unreal shut down pairing.

[GGG]

I dug out my post from the other thread.

CapGeek does not include Bonuses in there available cap space calc. The Bonus cushion is limited to 7.5% of the cap so about 4.5 million thus year. Edmonton has over 9 million in potential bonuses so 4.5 mil stays on the cap.

So what ever bonuses over 4.5 mil needed to be added to the cap before prorating the space for next year. So you need to take the total Salaries +4.5 mil and then prorate.
Also Bryz's signing bonus is not prorated over the entire season, only the games remaining so his cap hit is higher that whatever it was he signed for on a per year basis

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

From Capgeek's website:


The Oilers don't have as much cap space as you think if you just read the cap charts on capgeek... maybe only $2 million. They may be able to fight him in if they demote someone... not sure.

Works for me.

Makes it more likely the Flames might get him then. Not going to be upset about that.

Now, just give him 21, I can change my jersey namebar from Horak to Klesla and all will be right in the world again.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

45 assuming Sieloff doesn't play 10 NHL games this season

It looks like he still counts towards the 50 contracts unless he gets returned to Juniors.

Originally Posted by CBA

"Reserve List" means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:

(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player limit. Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as determined by the Commissioner.

(b) Unsigned Draft Choices.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Edmonton is at 49 contracts and plenty of cap room.

They could pick him up without much issue.

Edmonton does not have plenty of cap space. I made a post about this during the Bryzgalov and Smid moves but capgeek's listed cap for the Oiler's is extremely misleading. They do put disclaimers, multiple times, on the site but they get ignored a lot.

So pretty much how it works is a team can spend up to 64.3M in hard cap by the end of the year. They can spend another 4.8M on potential bonuses due to the 7.5% bonus cushion. But the Oilers have over 9.1M in potential bonuses, not all of which can be applied to that bonus cushion since it exceeds it. Upwards of 4.3M of the bonuses may need to be counted as hard cap, and when the team's projected cap space without accounting for that is only 6.4M, that means their actual cap space today may be just over 2M. Klesla salary is 3.0M but pro-rated would count closer to 2M. Making a roster move (let's say sending down Potter) would save them a bit of cap as well, but we're talking about maybe a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of cap space if the Oiler's picked up Klesla. That's not a comfortable position to be in when you need to acccount for minor injuries and roster changes.

The fact that Klesla is a player that the Oiler's could use and the cap space may be a limiting factor just shows how poorly put together the team is. If the Oiler's don't end up with Klesla, I can guarantee it's because of the cap and nothing else (Edit: Or Buffalo claims him ).

[EYE_Overstand]

We have so many bodies on D. Yikes.

Brodie - Smid - Russel - That SOB - Smith - Butler - Breen - Gio (Ltir).... How to fit kesla?

[Parallex]

One of the reason we were told Edm traded Smid to us was that they wanted the cap room... if they weren't willing to spend that money on Smid they won't be willing to spend it on Klesla.

And yes... we should without question claim him.

[mrdonkey]

Edmonton will claim Klesla for sure.

[Cheese]

just say no to Mr Glassla. He does not fit what we are trying to create. A soft dman. We just dont need him to mentor our kids.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by EYE_Overstand

We have so many bodies on D. Yikes.

Brodie - Smid - Russel - That SOB - Smith - Butler - Breen - Gio (Ltir).... How to fit kesla?

You forgot Wideman. Send Smith to Abbotsford... done.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Parallex

You forgot Wideman. Send Smith Butler to Abbotsford... done.

fyp

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Parallex

You forgot Wideman. Send Smith to Abbotsford... done.

Send Butler to Alaska...done! LOL

[codynw]

Originally Posted by parallex

you forgot wideman. Send butler on a rocket into the sun... Done.

fyp

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Cheese

just say no to Mr Glassla. He does not fit what we are trying to create. A soft dman. We just dont need him to mentor our kids.

Right, a soft dman. Who blocks shots with his face if necessary and then comes right back out on the ice.

Yes, he does seem to have a bad run in with injuries, however with the exception of the torn groin and abdominal muscle, he usually only misses a few games and comes right back. He plays a rough game, injuries are going to happen.