11-19-2013, 10:56 AM
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#1641
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
You're speaking from the perspective of a defense lawyer. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who would have been a friend or family of TM.
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Get over yourself. You don't know what actually happened. You weren't there. None of us were. You have no friends or family currently living in black US ghettos. Your sympathy for Martin does not give you any insight into what actually happened.
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11-19-2013, 11:02 AM
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#1642
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by blankall
Get over yourself. You don't know what actually happened. You weren't there. None of us were. You have no friends or family currently living in black US ghettos. Your sympathy for Martin does not give you any insight into what actually happened.
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Actually I do,
a kid went to the store and while walking home was shot dead. also a neighborhood watch guy, with a gun, and anger issues, shot someone dead.
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11-19-2013, 11:07 AM
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#1643
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
The guy clearly has problems, but one arrest is really not related to the other.
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No, but you can draw conclusions from previous arrests. I'm not about to have faith that a guy who has pulled a gun twice on people he supposedly cares about wouldn't hesitate to pull a gun on an unarmed teen he doesn't care about.
If you still believe this clown was innocent of killing Trayvon then nothing will make you believe he was guilty. He very well may be innocent but don't sit here and pretend these arrests don't paint him in a bad light regarding the murder trial.
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11-19-2013, 11:12 AM
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
No, but you can draw conclusions from previous arrests. I'm not about to have faith that a guy who has pulled a gun twice on people he supposedly cares about wouldn't hesitate to pull a gun on an unarmed teen he doesn't care about.
If you still believe this clown was innocent of killing Trayvon then nothing will make you believe he was guilty. He very well may be innocent but don't sit here and pretend these arrests don't paint him in a bad light regarding the murder trial.
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I don't mean to put words in the good Captain's mouth, but he and I have seemed to have the same perspective on this case.
It's not that Zimmerman was innocent, he was not-guilty. The arguments for him being not-guilty work in a similar fashion for him being innocent. There is too much unknown, and conflicting evidence.
I'm not saying Zimmerman is innocent (I don't think I ever did) and I don't think Captain Crunch is saying Zimmerman is innocent, we're both saying he's not guilty.
The difference between Innocent and Not-Guilty is outlined above.
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11-19-2013, 12:47 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
No, but you can draw conclusions from previous arrests. I'm not about to have faith that a guy who has pulled a gun twice on people he supposedly cares about wouldn't hesitate to pull a gun on an unarmed teen he doesn't care about.
If you still believe this clown was innocent of killing Trayvon then nothing will make you believe he was guilty. He very well may be innocent but don't sit here and pretend these arrests don't paint him in a bad light regarding the murder trial.
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Nope he killed TM, that's for sure, but you are drawing your own conclusions that they are pattern related,
This arrest paints him in a bad light, but is an unrelated circumstance.
According to the courts he was found innocent in the TM killing, not because he didn't kill him. But because they couldn't prove that it was murder under the charges specified.
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11-19-2013, 12:48 PM
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#1646
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
You're speaking from the perspective of a defense lawyer. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who would have been a friend or family of TM.
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so you are literally the giant spaghetti monster in the stars in this debate.
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11-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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He'll be back in court Jan. 7th. Bond set at $9000. He can't travel outside the state of Florida, can't be in possession of firearms, and can't go within 1500 feet of two residences the judge specified. Apparently his girlfriend said there was another domestic dispute a week or two ago where he chocked her but she did not call police.
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11-19-2013, 12:56 PM
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Norm!
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Personally I think Zimmerman is a loon, he is the poster boy for fire arm restrictions at this point.
For all of the speeches, on changing the laws in terms of gun ownership, it just seems like its a cause that's fallen by the way side again.
But guys like Zimmerman shouldn't have access to weapons. But the courts have to agree with that.
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11-19-2013, 12:57 PM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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The state attorney in the hearing mentioned the girlfriend had said he was either suicidal or talked about suicide recently. The media asked his lawyers afterwards if he was suicidal, the one lawyer said he didn't get that impression at all..........then said the first time he talked to him was today.
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11-19-2013, 01:08 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fantasy Island
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I doubt he's suicidal. Abusive people often threaten suicide to manipulate and control their partners. He's clearly abusive given that he's pulled a gun on his (ex) wife and girlfriend both on the past few months. He's a POS through and through.
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12-18-2013, 02:20 AM
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#1651
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vernon, BC
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12-18-2013, 03:46 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Zimmerman, who in July was acquitted in the racially charged fatal shooting of black teen Trayvon Martin, is in more than $2 million of legal debt, according to his lawyer.
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Whoever is bidding has to be doing so as a way of just supporting Zimmerman and helping him out of debt.
In 2 years time no one will remember Zimmerman, so I can't see this being a great investment.
It is really a crazy system. Either spend life in prison or be crippled by debt.
How do you even get a lawyer who would allow someone to go 2 million in debt? Was Zimmerman fairly well off before this? I assumed he was low to middle class. Perhaps this lawyer knew this would be a high profile case and took it more for the name recognition and knew he would never get his money due?
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02-05-2014, 11:17 AM
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lol
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@IanKarmel
They should send Floyd Mayweather to the ring and tell George Zimmerman it's DMX. He won't know the difference.
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02-05-2014, 11:59 AM
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#1655
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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GZ is like the Tonia Harding of getting away with murder.
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02-05-2014, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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DMX is going to somehow end up in jail again after this.
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02-05-2014, 02:24 PM
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#1657
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
DMX is going to somehow end up in jail again after this.
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Maybe if he urinated on Zimmerman's face? http://m.spin.com/articles/dmx-georg...n=spinfacebook
Just can't make this stuff up.
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02-05-2014, 03:21 PM
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#1658
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Franchise Player
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Two idiots duking it out. I really hope that they both lose somehow...
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02-05-2014, 03:26 PM
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#1659
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Ark2
Two idiots duking it out. I really hope that they both lose somehow...
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Oh trust me, they both already did!
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02-05-2014, 03:28 PM
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#1660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ark2
Two idiots duking it out. I really hope that they both lose somehow...
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Well, they're going to beat the crap out of each other, so thats a type of losing I guess.
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