[Trade] Oilers trade Smid and Olivier Roy to Flames for Horak and Brossoit

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Burner

Does anyone know if you can be over the cap because of bonuses during the year? Or do you have to the end of the year to shed some cap space and come under the cap?

Just wondering if they really did have to trade Smid to make room for Bryz. They didnt have to by the hard cap numbers.

And is there any idea of much of the proposed bonuses they might ahve had to pay this year??

Pretty sure you can exceed the cap by bonuses but you are then penalized the following year by the same amount. That's how Boston was able to sign Iggy. They didn't need to dump Smid for cap room.

[sureLoss]

You can exceed the cap by bonuses by 7.5% of the upper limit which is $4.8 million this season.

The Oilers have $9.1 million in performance bonuses thanks to RNH, Yakupov, Schultz, Belov and Petry's ELC. $4.3 million of that can't be used in the bonus cushion and still will count towards the $64.3 million limit.

Source: http://capgeek.com/faq/what-s-a-bonus-overage
http://capgeek.com/oilers/

Capgeek's cap calculator doesn't take into account if a team is exceeding the bonus cushion like the Oilers are.

[thymebalm]

So, I figured since this thread touches on our goaltending, I should mention that Ortio is doing great to start the year. Hope he keeps it up tonight.

echl stats: 4GP 2 shutout 1.01gga .944% 3-1
ahl stats: 4GP 1.69gga .936% 4-0

A lot better than his previous north american pro attempt. This is likely another reason why Feaster felt comfortable to let Brossoit go.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

So, I figured since this thread touches on our goaltending, I should mention that Ortio is doing great to start the year. Hope he keeps it up tonight.

echl stats: 4GP 2 shutout 1.01gga .944% 3-1
ahl stats: 4GP 1.69gga .936% 4-0

A lot better than his previous north american pro attempt. This is likely another reason why Feaster felt comfortable to let Brossoit go.

It seems like all of Ramo, Berra and Ortio are turning their games up a notch because there is an opening available if they want to take it. Competition is a very good thing.

[Bingo]

Interesting. Our summer prospect poll had horak at 11 and brossoit at 17

Not bad for a top 4 damn and an unknown

[powderjunkie]

Only 3 players have more fights than Iggy this year

http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/.../1/reg2014/1/t

(a few of the 4 fight guys probably fought tonight, but still)

[Dion]

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Dion

I never go there. In fact, until recently I had only gone twice. As our team loses games and my frustration mounts, I've found a quick trip is cathartic

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

He married Sarah Silverman?

Spoiler!

Don't be a creep.

[RM14]

Well since we aquired Horak via the Tim Erixon holdout. I don't mind the D man pick up. In the big picture it is great asset management.

Out:
Tim Erixon
2011 5th (rangers ended up taking Shane McColgan)

In.
Roman Horak Ladislav Smid
two 2nds (M. Granlund, T. Wotherspoon)

Not too bad! Good moves by Feaster there.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by RM14

Well since we aquired Horak via the Tim Erixon holdout. I don't mind the D man pick up. In the big picture it is great asset management.

Out:
Tim Erixon
2011 5th (rangers ended up taking Shane McColgan)
Laurent Brossoit

In.
Roman Horak Ladislav Smid
two 2nds (M. Granlund, T. Wotherspoon)
Olivier Roy

Not too bad! Good moves by Feaster there.

still good just added the other two names

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I'd like to thank Brossoit for putting up back to back shutouts in the ECHL driving his value up, despite poor numbers in the AHL. Perfect example of selling high by Feaster.

I don't think single games have as much of an impact on a player's trade value as you seem to think they do. GM's base their evaluation of a player on scouting reports compiled over years, not just ones over the last week. EDM acquired Brossoit based on scouting him for years in junior. They certainly didn't acquire him because he had a couple shutouts in the ECHL.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I wonder what number Smid will wear with the Flames. 5 is obviously gone, 55 would be an easy pick but it's also gone. He wore 17 in Portland - gone.

Maybe 21, since Horak is gone? 3, as an available "traditional" D number? I'm curious.

[Dajazz]

This trade makes me think of how the vikings raided villages.

Killed all the men, took all the women, ate the horses and left only a burning pile.

Edmonton got fleeced.

[Itse]

It's more like they forgot to store food for the winter and accidentally set their own village on fire, after which all their women left and took the horses. Then we came to rescue a couple of freezing villagers, although unfortunately some of our own guys got left behind.

[McLintock]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

It seems like all of Ramo, Berra and Ortio are turning their games up a notch because there is an opening available if they want to take it. Competition is a very good thing.

A Berra / Ortio tandem was my wish to start the season. Maybe we finish the season with Ortio as the starter in late May..

[JJsChaos]

I can't wait to watch him smack the Oilers around next week.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Itse

It's more like they forgot to store food for the winter and accidentally set their own village on fire, after which all their women left and took the horses. Then we came to rescue a couple of freezing villagers, although unfortunately some of our own guys got left behind.

This is Edmonton we're talking about. The women ARE the horses.

[sureLoss]

Smid is currently practicing with the Flames and wearing #3.

[dammage79]

And stempy is skating as is Breen.