Rob Ford Transgressions Thread

[StrykerSteve]

It blows my mind that this guy hasn't been forcibly removed from office yet.

[flylock shox]

Has anyone found a date for that video yet?

It's obvious he's talking about a wrestling match, which I guess is consistent with his connections to Iron Sheik and Hulk Hogan. Was he ever actually known to be talking about a charity wrestling match with any old pro guys?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Does anyone else think the reason Ford is so stead-fast on not stepping down is that he is worried once he is no longer mayor HE might be in cement shoes? He has obviously had dealings with less-than-savoury people, has had people involved die around him, and is threatening people with death (coked up/drunken rage or not, threatening first degree murder is madness). Is it a stretch to think he might be next when the people who have been involved don't need him anymore? What good is he to them if he's not mayor? Just another guy that knows a bunch of names and places.

I suspect he's in the final stretch of his life anyway regardless of anyone having it in for him. He drinks excessively, he smokes crack, he snorts cocaine (the video is classic proof of too much usage), and he's 330+ pounds. People like that typically do not make it to 50.

[JobHopper]

Rather a drunk crack smoker than this guy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...eets-1.2417190

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

Has anyone found a date for that video yet?

It's obvious he's talking about a wrestling match, which I guess is consistent with his connections to Iron Sheik and Hulk Hogan. Was he ever actually known to be talking about a charity wrestling match with any old pro guys?

I dunno if I'd say it's obvious he's talking about a wrestling match. At some parts it sure seems like it does, and others, it seems like he's talking about something far more personal or illegal. At this point, with everything going on, and everything we know about him, who knows what it could be.

As for Hulk, he was just recently in Calgary doing the same sort of promo thing he was doing in Toronto, so I don't even know if that has anything to do with it. It sure could, but I'm not sure it's obvious that it does.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by JobHopper

Rather a drunk crack smoker than this guy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...eets-1.2417190

Or neither of them. Besides, wasn't Ford also accused of saying similar things?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The sad question here: Is this even rock bottom for Rob Ford? If not I don't even wanna know what that looks like.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

It blows my mind that this guy hasn't been forcibly removed from office yet.

Don't know the laws in Ontario but in Alberta he couldn't be removed at this point.

[Tron_fdc]

did anyone bother to ask what he's inebriated ON? Y'know, right questions n all.

He's high as HELL in that video. Zero doubt in mind. I've seen enough cocaine use to know he either JUST put a gigantic Tony Montana up his nose, or he's on the pipe.

The man needs help.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

did anyone bother to ask what he's inebriated ON? Y'know, right questions n all.

He's high as HELL in that video. Zero doubt in mind. I've seen enough cocaine use to know he either JUST put a gigantic Tony Montana up his nose, or he's on the pipe.

The man needs help.

Yeah, they asked that and other relevant questions, like, 'who were you talking to?'

Like most politicians he just answers the ones he wants to (or says what he wants to say) ignores the rest, and then blames the media after. Oh, you never asked, or you didn't ask the right ones.

He was asked point blank before he admitted to using crack cocaine 'HAVE you ever used,' not just 'do you,' or 'are you using crack cocaine', he just skipped right over it like he didn't hear it. Then turned it back on them when he finally did admit it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

did anyone bother to ask what he's inebriated ON? Y'know, right questions n all.

He's high as HELL in that video. Zero doubt in mind. I've seen enough cocaine use to know he either JUST put a gigantic Tony Montana up his nose, or he's on the pipe.

The man needs help.

At the very end, one reporter asks if it was alcohol and Ford doesn't answer.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I dunno if I'd say it's obvious he's talking about a wrestling match. At some parts it sure seems like it does, and others, it seems like he's talking about something far more personal or illegal. At this point, with everything going on, and everything we know about him, who knows what it could be.

As for Hulk, he was just recently in Calgary doing the same sort of promo thing he was doing in Toronto, so I don't even know if that has anything to do with it. It sure could, but I'm not sure it's obvious that it does.

I don't know, to me it's readily apparent he's talking about wrestling, and probably a charity wrestling match.

I couldn't believe the crap editorializing Global engaged in tonight showing this video, basically pumping up the most damning interpretation possible and stretching to link this to criminal activity and even murder. Really shoddy journalism.

As an aside, I think Ford may finally be close to caving, based on his press conference today.

[killer_carlson]

The only card Ford can play is "imagine what i could do sober!"

He should take a 1 month leave of absence, dry out, lose a few pounds, and then make his decision.

[Red Slinger]

I keep hearing comments like "yeah, he's a drunk crack-head but he's done a good job as mayor..."

So, what exactly has he done that would be considered a good job?

(Sorry, if this has already been addressed; haven't read the full thread.)

[killer_carlson]

According to wikipedia

He took on the unions
Privatized garbage collection
Increased massive transit to the burbs
Cut over 1000 positions through early buyout ( out of 17000)
Ran a budget surplus of nearly $300 million.

(and made Toronto an international discussion topic)

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm torn on the last video, on one hand yes he's clearly drunk or high or whatever and he's rambling like a drunk or high person tends to ramble on.

On the other hand, he's sitting in a living room, clearly with friends and somebody video tapes it and turns around and sells the video tape for $5000.00. The person that did that is just as terrible of a person.

And it makes you think that you are now open game in your house. For someone like Slava for example if he's running for city council in the next election, you'd better make sure you take away peoples cell phones when they come into your house in case you start dropping f-bombs when someone brings up a topic that you don't like when your loaded.

Looking at the video I don't know the context, is the guy doing a wrestling promo, is he ordering a hit on his enemies. Who knows.

Its clear that Ford needs to go and get help and decide if he wants to stay in the public limelight.

But this opens up the whole, does a good news story and a check trump the right to some privacy?

I don't know if I'm even saying this right to be honest.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

According to wikipedia

He took on the unions
Privatized garbage collection
Increased massive transit to the burbs
Cut over 1000 positions through early buyout ( out of 17000)
Ran a budget surplus of nearly $300 million.

(and made Toronto an international discussion topic)

But he has neglected many things as well.

It's actually really easy to make cuts and save money, or privatize services and give the contracts to buddies. Meanwhile, innercity infrastructure and services are on the decline. At least the peple who live in the burbs, don't need to look at it though.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm torn on the last video, on one hand yes he's clearly drunk or high or whatever and he's rambling like a drunk or high person tends to ramble on.

On the other hand, he's sitting in a living room, clearly with friends and somebody video tapes it and turns around and sells the video tape for $5000.00. The person that did that is just as terrible of a person.

And it makes you think that you are now open game in your house. For someone like Slava for example if he's running for city council in the next election, you'd better make sure you take away peoples cell phones when they come into your house in case you start dropping f-bombs when someone brings up a topic that you don't like when your loaded.

Looking at the video I don't know the context, is the guy doing a wrestling promo, is he ordering a hit on his enemies. Who knows.

Its clear that Ford needs to go and get help and decide if he wants to stay in the public limelight.

But this opens up the whole, does a good news story and a check trump the right to some privacy?

I don't know if I'm even saying this right to be honest.

That's exactly it. Times have changed in this regard. Sticking with the Ralph Klein example, hearing about him being hammered and throwing change at a homeless guy can give a completely different impression than watching a video of the same incident.

If you're going to run for office, that is a terrifying thought! One minute you're screwing around with your buddies thinking everything is safe amongst friends and the next thing you know its national news. I mean, I've never done crack, so I feel basically bulletproof in that regard, but like every other guy who has had too much to drink I'm sure I've said some entirely stupid and shameful things!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well at least he's considering rehab now. But the only way he'll ever leave office is by being voted out (or thrown in jail)

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford is seriously considering undergoing treatment for substance abuse, according to a close adviser.

The mayor’s apparent change of heart came Thursday, when a new video surfaced showing him inebriated and issuing a string of profane threats. The recording is the latest development in a week of damaging revelations and mounting calls from friends and allies alike for Mr. Ford to get help.

He’s considering options,” Dennis Morris, the mayor’s lawyer and a long-time family friend, told The Globe and Mail in an interview. “And we’ll stay tuned to see what he says in the next few days.”

It is not clear what kind of treatment Mr. Ford is contemplating, said Mr. Morris, who was at the mayor’s side for most of Thursday. However, the lawyer cast doubt on in-patient 21– or 28-day programs, saying they’re not a “magic pill”.

“There are different ways that a person could go into recovery for substance abuse and I guess the person has to choose what’s best for them,” he said. “There’s lots of options.”

Asked whether the mayor would take a leave of absence, Mr. Morris said: “I can’t comment on what’s in his mind but I know he’s going to not voluntarily give up his position.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...board/follows/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm torn on the last video, on one hand yes he's clearly drunk or high or whatever and he's rambling like a drunk or high person tends to ramble on.

On the other hand, he's sitting in a living room, clearly with friends and somebody video tapes it and turns around and sells the video tape for $5000.00. The person that did that is just as terrible of a person.

And it makes you think that you are now open game in your house. For someone like Slava for example if he's running for city council in the next election, you'd better make sure you take away peoples cell phones when they come into your house in case you start dropping f-bombs when someone brings up a topic that you don't like when your loaded.

Looking at the video I don't know the context, is the guy doing a wrestling promo, is he ordering a hit on his enemies. Who knows.

Its clear that Ford needs to go and get help and decide if he wants to stay in the public limelight.

But this opens up the whole, does a good news story and a check trump the right to some privacy?

I don't know if I'm even saying this right to be honest.

If he would step down, then I would for sure support his right to privacy, but it's been proven that he consorts with criminals and uses illegal drugs. He is the face of the city and holds one of the most powerful positions in the country. If he won't step down and get help, then he should be smeared into submission.