Chef Jamie Oliver won a battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise announced it will change its recipe.
In the United States, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”
In addition, the franchise denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.
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McDonalds used Rose Meat in the production of their hamburgers, in some ratio I am not sure of with regular ground beef. It is essentially the trapezius muscle found on the external surface of the fat.
I am guessing that is what they are referring to here.
Source: I used to work at the plant that provided this meat.
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Rose Meat, as linked by Rathji, and "pink slime" as described by Jamie in the clip seem to be completely unrelated. I would frankly have no problem with rose meat, but pink slime looks, sounds, and probably tastes by itself, gross.
Without knowing about the details of this one, generally I'm less than happy with the western trend of only using "the prime pieces" of animals.
I agree with this. Raising livestock for food is already extremely inefficient, espeically when so many people in the world do not have enough to eat. We should be learning how to utilize 100% of these animals if we are going to inist on keeping them in our diet.
I have nothing against turning organs, skin, cartlidge, veins, etc... into viable and edible meat products. Sorry if that grosses some people out, but people need to get over it. I do wish the food industry was honest about it though so that people could start getting mentally used to it more.
I am not looking forward to seeing what happens to food prices either if people insist that even low-quality food is only made of the finest meat.
Oh, and I love hot dogs. If that means I love pink slime, then so be it.
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I agree with this. Raising livestock for food is already extremely inefficient, espeically when so many people in the world do not have enough to eat. We should be learning how to utilize 100% of these animals if we are going to inist on keeping them in our diet.
I have nothing against turning organs, skin, cartlidge, veins, etc... into viable and edible meat products. Sorry if that grosses some people out, but people need to get over it. I do wish the food industry was honest about it though so that people could start getting mentally used to it more.
I am not looking forward to seeing what happens to food prices either if people insist that even low-quality food is only made of the finest meat.
So do you eat offal?
I think Oliver is as upset about the process as the "meat/parts" used.
Rose Meat, as linked by Rathji, and "pink slime" as described by Jamie in the clip seem to be completely unrelated. I would frankly have no problem with rose meat, but pink slime looks, sounds, and probably tastes by itself, gross.
Actually, rosemeat is the bulk of the product that he is describing, typically about 50% of the bins that were shipped to McDonalds were rosemeat.
The stuff that isn't is essentially just fat and meat that is cleaned off the bones using a MDM (mechanical deboning machine) .
Which is the process he was describing with the washing machine.
Personally, I don't see why he thinks it (the MDM meat portion, I mean) is that bad. All it is essentially, is meat which is mashed into a really fine mush. It's not like anyone who went to Taco Bell or McDonalds actually thought they were getting regular grind.
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So do you eat offal?
I think Oliver is as upset about the process as the "meat/parts" used.
Offal is not used in any edible product which McDonalds recieved, at least in the facilities I worked in, which provided a great deal of product for McDonalds specifically. I never once saw anything from the inedible room that was ever shipped to McDonalds, and never heard about it happening.
The things that did get shipped to McDonalds are MDM often in or alongside 50/50 grind, and rosemeat.
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Well, I believe the quality of our food is paramount to profit. I would rather a veggie filler be introduced and have a lower but healthier concentration of meat protein in a patty.
I am probably in the minority as I don't eat at McD anyway.
Offal is not used in any edible product which McDonalds recieved, at least in the facilities I worked in, which provided a great deal of product for McDonalds specifically. I never once saw anything from the inedible room that was ever shipped to McDonalds, and never heard about it happening.
The things that did get shipped to McDonalds are MDM often in or alongside 50/50 grind, and rosemeat.
Sorry I was not clear. My comment was more aimed at the using more of the animal statement.
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This is nothing but an attention seeking campaign by a celebrity chef who's trying to maintain the spotlight of his fame and push more of his cookbooks sales and cooking products.
If anyone hasn't seen Jamie Oliver's "Flavor shaker" it's a useless POS that's essentially a tumbler with a rubber ball that retails for $30
^ Well, that's one viewpoint. After watching his documentary series a couple of years ago about trying to get school lunches in the LA Public School system to be healthy, I personally think he's doing these things for the right reason. I don't mind if he makes a few bucks doing something positive, it's better than the alternative.
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Those of us in healthcare thank the world for people like Jamie Oliver. Anything you can do to get toxic crap like ammonia out of food is a good thing for people. Chemical processing of food that would otherwise be inedible is one of the reasons people aren't as healthy as they should be, mostly due to lack of available nutrients destroyed in the process and increased toxic load on your systems. Never mind what cut of meat it is, it's the way the meat is raised and the way it is processed. We've gone too far with the use of harsh chemicals in just about everything, and now we need to scale it back a bit.
The less chemical processing, the better the food is for you. Your liver will thank you for the reduced toxic load and that means you can go and drink more booze!
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The Associated PressPink slime, the term adopted by opponents of 'lean finely textured beef,' describes the processed trimmings cleansed with ammonia and commonly mixed into ground meat, but not in Canada.
Hamilton Spectator ByDan Kislenko
Go ahead, grill up those burgers this weekend.
There’s no “pink slime” in them, at least not in Canada.
If anyone hasn't seen Jamie Oliver's "Flavor shaker" it's a useless POS that's essentially a tumbler with a rubber ball that retails for $30
Clearly you have never used one. lol The ball in the shaker is ceramic and it is used for crushing fresh herbs. It does that rather well. Chop or tear herbs, add oil or juice, drop the ball in and shake to mash everything together.
Clearly you have never used one. lol The ball in the shaker is ceramic and it is used for crushing fresh herbs. It does that rather well. Chop or tear herbs, add oil or juice, drop the ball in and shake to mash everything together.
With reviews like these, are you really telling me its worth $30?
This is nothing but an attention seeking campaign by a celebrity chef who's trying to maintain the spotlight of his fame and push more of his cookbooks sales and cooking products.
If anyone hasn't seen Jamie Oliver's "Flavor shaker" it's a useless POS that's essentially a tumbler with a rubber ball that retails for $30
First thing I thought about after reading this thread was about the proportion of "meat" and meat in all these fast food products.
Second would be how it's a good thing that a celebrity chef is doing something to bring this issue to the forefront.
There is no situation where I would think I need to buy a Jamie Oliver product in all of this, so either you had a really bad experience with the Flavor Shaker, which should probably warrant a different thread detailing your negative review or Jamie Oliver has peed in your morning Cheerios.
Jamie Oliver Campaign makes McDonald’s change recipe
