CFL Expansion Draft

[Cheese]

So not to long from now the REDBLACKS (sic) will be drafting their team.
From a Stampeders POV, and other teams if you wish, who does Calgary protect in each round?

http://www.cfl.ca/article/expansion-draft-plan-approved

ROUND ONE: IMPORT DRAFT

Member Clubs may protect one quarterback, and ten additional Import players.

Ottawa will select one Import player from each Member Club.

Import quarterbacks, kickers, and punters are eligible for selection (and protection), provided that:

– Each Member Club may protect a maximum of one quarterback in the Import Draft.

– All other quarterbacks on a Member Club’s roster at the time of the draft are eligible for selection in this section.

– Ottawa will only be able to select two quarterbacks in the Expansion Draft.

– If a quarterback is selected from a Member Club in the Import Draft, such Member Club will be able to protect the names of an additional two Non-Import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft.

– If a kicker or punter is selected from a Member Club in the Import Draft, such Member Club will be able to protect one additional Non-Import player in the first round of the Non-Import Draft.

ROUND TWO: NON-IMPORT DRAFT

Each Member Club will protect six Non-Import players.

Non-Import quarterbacks, kickers, and punters are eligible for selection (and protection), provided that:

– If a Member Club had a quarterback selected from its roster in the Import draft, it will be permitted to protect eight Non-Import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft (instead of six); and

– Ottawa will be prevented from also selecting a kicker or punter from that Member Club.

- If a Member Club had a kicker or punter selected from its roster in the Import Draft:

– That Member Club will be permitted to protect seven Non-Import players in the Non-Import Draft (instead of six); and

– Ottawa will be prevented from also selecting a quarterback from that Member Club.

Any kicker or punter selected in the Non-Import Draft must be selected in the first round. If a Member Club had a kicker or punter selected from its roster in the Non-Import Draft, such Member Club would be eligible to protect eight Non-Import players in the second round of the Non-Import Draft, instead of six.

Ottawa will then select one non-import player from each Member Club.


ROUND THREE: NON-IMPORT DRAFT

Member Clubs will then submit a second list of an additional six Non-Import players for protection

If a Member Club lost a Non-Import kicker or punter in the first round of the Non-Import Draft, such Member Club would submit two additional Non-Import player names for protection.

Ottawa will then select one non-import player from each Member Club.

Stampeders Roster

So starting with Round 1...what is the consensus, we can protect 1 QB and 10 additional Import players.

QB for me is Bo Levi Mitchell

10 Imports are:

Price, Maurice
McDaniel, Marquay
Johnson, Micah
Raymond, Keon
Hughes, Charleston
Mayo, Deron
Smith, Brandon
Bennett, Fred
Law, Cordarro
Bolden, Demonte'

I think we lose Juwan Simpson or Joe West to Ottawa.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

I think you're import list makes a lot of sense for the Stamps. The only change I would make is probably protecting Joe West in place of Fred Bennett.

[tvp2003]

Does Mo Price have the option of playing in the NFL next year?

Our non-import list is interesting; per the rules, if Ottawa takes one of our QB's -- Tate or Glenn -- we can protect an extra two non-imports, plus both our kickers are safe. That would be big IMO.

Yes:
Cornish
Parades
Gott
Jones
Tsoumpas
Mace

Maybe (if a QB is selected):
Cote
Arthur
Wilson or Federkeil
(plus Maver)

No:
Sinopoli
Fraser
Hecht
St. Pierre
Phillips
McCartney
Carter
Deane
Chevrier
Legare
Peach
Parker
Forzani
Bauman

EDIT: That list doesn't include our first round pick this year (Brander Craighead), who I'm assuming is also eligible to be picked.

[Da_Chief]

Round 1 - Imports to Protect

QB - Bo Levi Mitchell

1) Nik Lewis
2) Mo Price
3) Jo West
4) Stanley Bryant
5) Charleston Hughes
6) Cordero Law
7) Deron Mayo
8) Juwan Simpson
9) Keon Raymond
10) Jamar Wall

We lose Drew Tate, Allowing 2 more non-imports to be protected. If not Tate then they go Brandon Smith.

Round 2 - Non-Imports to Protect

1) Jon Cornish
2) Brett Jones
3) Dmitri Tsoumpas
4) Rene Parades
5) Corey Mace
6) Spencer Wilson
7*) Jon Gott
8*) Brad Sinopli

* If our QB is taken

I think we can only protect one kicker/punter so we likely lose Rob Maver if Tate is NOT taken.

Round 3 - More Non-Imports (my order of protection preference)

Protect 6-8 more

[tvp2003]

Any thoughts on which two QB's Ottawa might pick? If I'm Toronto, assuming I protect Ray, I wonder if I try to flip Collaros to Winnipeg (and out of the division) instead of losing him to Ottawa.


Burris is a free agent but I'm assuming he re-signs in Hamilton (and is subsequently protected).


That leaves Glenn, Tate, DeMarco, or maybe Willy. I think Glenn is the safe pick (reliable vet) as opposed Tate. However, if Collaros is not available, I would strongly consider picking Tate as my starter and then DeMarco or Willy to be a backup or 1b.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

If Toronto doesn't trade Collaros then I would be shocked if Ottawa doesn't pick him. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try and go after Burris or Glenn as a veteran through free agency (Glenn is a free agent, right?).

I wouldn't touch Tate with a 10 foot pole if I'm Ottawa. The guy can't stay healthy.

[Cheese]

yup Glenn is a free agent...he will sign in Winnipeg or Ottawa for sure and maybe the loser gets Burris, not sure he gets resigned in Steeltown.
IF Collaros is still in Toronto then Ottawa grabs him before Tate I would think.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

If Toronto doesn't trade Collaros then I would be shocked if Ottawa doesn't pick him. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try and go after Burris or Glenn as a veteran through free agency (Glenn is a free agent, right?).

I wouldn't touch Tate with a 10 foot pole if I'm Ottawa. The guy can't stay healthy.

Collaros is a free agent after this season, so I think there is a really good chance Baker trades him to somewhere like Winnipeg after the season just to get something in return instead of losing him for nothing. Hamilton and Montreal could be in the QB market as well.

EDIT: Willy also happens to be a free agent and I think he would/will have/be on high on their list as well.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Drake

Collaros is a free agent after this season, so I think there is a really good chance Baker trades him to somewhere like Winnipeg after the season just to get something in return instead of losing him for nothing. Hamilton and Montreal could be in the QB market as well.

EDIT: Willy also happens to be a free agent and I think he would/will have/be on high on their list as well.

That makes sense. I definitely think Collaros will be picked up by Ottawa. If Winnipeg picks him up, he will protected.

BLM will be protected for sure so it means Ottawa will have option of selecting one of the following in order) Tor Zack Collaros, Sask Drew Willy, Hamilton Dan Lefevour, BC Thomas DeMarco, veteran QB Calgary Kevin Glenn.

[Cheese]

Calgary could lose both Tate and Glenn this offseason...that might make things iffy next year. I see Glenn going to Winnipeg to end out his career on a UFA deal and Tate could get selected by Ottawa.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Calgary could lose both Tate and Glenn this offseason...that might make things iffy next year. I see Glenn going to Winnipeg to end out his career on a UFA deal and Tate could get selected by Ottawa.

If I'm Calgary I do what I can to re-sign Glenn, even if it means eventually cutting or trading Tate (if neither get picked up by Ottawa). If BLM is going to be your (future) starter, I'd rather have Glenn back him up as opposed to Tate. And if you end up losing Glenn to Ottawa, then at least you'll protect your two all-star kickers and two extra non-imports in the process.


Besides, being a starter on a horrible Winnipeg team or an expansion Ottawa team can't be that appealing to any FA quarterback, let alone a guy who is having great success on a good team. The wildcard is if Glenn "chooses" to return to Winnipeg as opposed to Ottawa (or maybe Hamilton if Burris isn't re-signed, but I don't see that happening personally).

[Madman]

Ottawa GM Desjardins has made it clear that he will not be selecting a QB that is a pending Free Agent.

“In this whole process with the quarterbacks, what people fail to really look with any degree of emphasis is the fact that there are quarterbacks that are in the league right now that as of today are (set to become) free agents,” he said.

“Those are guys that we wouldn’t even consider drafting, probably because our hopes would be to be able to sign them as free agents. And whatever that mix ends up being in terms of veteran versus a younger guy and free agency versus the draft, is something we’re going to have to work on as me move along.”

[Cheese]

^^^ he did say he would sign them as free agents though...I agree, why select a UFA when you can make a good offer.

[Drake]

I'll be surprised if Ottawa doesn't go balls to the wall for Canadian offensive lineman that are left unprotected in the second round. The strength of any team starts with having Canadians playing those positions across the line. Then in the third round they fill the rest out with guys who are nonetheless good special team players, unless someone leaves a Canadian offensive lineman unprotected because of a number of different circumstances that I can think of the top of my head. Example, maybe said team values this Canadian playing SB more over this guy playing RT.

Ottawa IMO would be wise to just select one QB as that could hurt their Canadian content. Do they have take two QB's or can they only take one?

[Stay Golden]

If Sinopli is not protected he is gone. I almost hope Tate gets picked so we can protect 2 more Canadians. The way this format is Ottawa could build a better team than 2 or 3 CFL teams currently are. There is going to be some real quality players from each team that they simply can't protect due to the numbers.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

If Sinopli is not protected he is gone. I almost hope Tate gets picked so we can protect 2 more Canadians. The way this format is Ottawa could build a better team than 2 or 3 CFL teams currently are. There is going to be some real quality players from each team that they simply can't protect due to the numbers.

Essentially, if we lose Tate, we can protect 4 more Canadians, because we don't have to protect Paredes or Maver, plus get the two extra protects.

The way it's worded, can't we just say everyone is a kicker, and thus leave no one unprotected?

The problem with this leading to Ottawa being a better team than 2 or 3 other teams is that they don't get to pick any of the top 15 or so players off of any team. Sure, they might have a decent QB and a decent player here and there, but they will still be worse than every other team in nearly every position.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

If Sinopli is not protected he is gone. I almost hope Tate gets picked so we can protect 2 more Canadians. The way this format is Ottawa could build a better team than 2 or 3 CFL teams currently are. There is going to be some real quality players from each team that they simply can't protect due to the numbers.

I like Brad as well and wonder if he might get picked. In round 2 I think I would protect Sinopoli and leave Forzani unprotected.

[Cheese]

ROUND TWO: NON-IMPORT DRAFT

Each Member Club will protect six Non-Import players.

Non-Import quarterbacks, kickers, and punters are eligible for selection (and protection), provided that:

– If a Member Club had a quarterback selected from its roster in the Import draft, it will be permitted to protect eight Non-Import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft (instead of six); and

– Ottawa will be prevented from also selecting a kicker or punter from that Member Club.

- If a Member Club had a kicker or punter selected from its roster in the Import Draft:

– That Member Club will be permitted to protect seven Non-Import players in the Non-Import Draft (instead of six); and

– Ottawa will be prevented from also selecting a quarterback from that Member Club.

Any kicker or punter selected in the Non-Import Draft must be selected in the first round. If a Member Club had a kicker or punter selected from its roster in the Non-Import Draft, such Member Club would be eligible to protect eight Non-Import players in the second round of the Non-Import Draft, instead of six.


I think this covers our non imports

Sinopoli, Brad WR Non-Import
Maver, Rob P Non-Import
Fraser, Eric DB Non-Import
Cornish, Jon RB Non-Import
Cote, Rob RB Non-Import
Hecht, Jeff DB Non-Import
Paredes, Rene K Non-Import
St. Pierre, Tim RB Non-Import
Phillips, Justin DL Non-Import
McCartney, Karl LB Non-Import
Carter, Yannick LB Non-Import
Wilson, Spencer OL Non-Import
Chevrier, Randy LS Non-Import
Gott, Jon OL Non-Import
Deane, J'Micheal OL Non-Import
Jones, Brett OL Non-Import
D'Aguilar, Ben DL Non-Import
Arthur, Jabari SB Non-Import
Parker, Anthony WR Non-Import
Legare, Etienne DL Non-Import
Walter, Matt RB Non-Import
Turner, Junior DL Non-Import
MacDougall, Keenan DB Non-Import
Federkeil, Dan OL Non-Import
Forzani, Johnny WR Non-Import
DeSouza, Wilkerson RB Non-Import
Tsoumpas, Dimitri OL Non-Import
Bauman, Chris SB Non-Import
Mace, Corey DL Non-Import
Berger, Adam DB Non-Import
Peach, Billy OL Non-Import
Bergman, Shane OL Non-Import
Armstrong, Spencer WR Non-Import

assumption 1: IF Tate is picked what is your protection list?
assumption 2: IF Tate is not picked who do you protect?

Are the 6 hilighted who you would protect? It would really benefit the Stamps if Ottawa picked Tate...we could then protect 8 players and not worry about the kickers as they would be off limits.

IF no QB picked I think Ottawa takes Maver Deane or Peach.

[Bobblehead]

I think Ottawa goes after Sinopoli largely for the PR - an Ottawa Gee-Gee star who won the Hec Creighton. The fact that he has shown himself to be pretty versatile makes him tough for Ottawa to pass up if he is available.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I like Brad as well and wonder if he might get picked. In round 2 I think I would protect Sinopoli and leave Forzani unprotected.

that is exactly what i would do as well.
The protecting Forzani concerns me he has ties to Huff, Godson or something i think but what i find more alarming is Forzani seems to be just chilling, enjoying being paid and this has to be longest recovery for a ankle in pro sports of any kind.
My son actually knows Johnny from his Colts days. Forzani only played 1 season with him but was with them for 4. Nice enough guy a bit brash for my liking.
Forzani is just a vertical threat on streaks, outs, occasionally an end around but he doesn't fight for the ball enough with a DB. Sinopli is a multi dimentional as a receiver and is only going to get better.
He reminds me a bit like Vince Danielsen or Sponge.