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Caged Great · 10-08-2013, 10:50 AM

If you're going to go after a goalie, why not contact the blues. They have Halak, Allen and Elliott. We could probably pry Elliott from them for a minimal amount just so they could open a spot for Allen to play regularly.

I know we mostly don't like Elliott, but he would be a good stop gap guy till Gillies is ready.

SuperMatt18 · 10-08-2013, 10:57 AM

Why are we going after a goalie anyways? No need to give up an asset for a goalie right now.

We still have Ramo, Berra (who from all accounts looked great in both AHL starts so far), Ortio, and Broissoit in the organization right now.

I would give all 4 of those guys a shot over the next two seasons before I go trading assets for another goalie right now.

flambers · 10-08-2013, 10:59 AM

In my view the Flames would have no interest in Reimer, he is kind of like the type of Goalie the Flames already have....

As for the Oilers they need a prooven #1...

I doubt either team would have interest.

Caged Great · 10-08-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Why are we going after a goalie anyways? No need to give up an asset for a goalie right now.

We still have Ramo, Berra (who from all accounts looked great in both AHL starts so far), Ortio, and Broissoit in the organization right now.

I would give all 4 of those guys a shot over the next two seasons before I go trading assets for another goalie right now.

I would give all 3 of Berra Ramo and Ortio a shot this year if the former two are both disappointing, but we can not have a black hole on our roster if they all suck. This is more speculation for later in the season anyway.

madmike · 10-08-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Both teams have questionable goaltending, and with Bernier playing so well, I am guessing this will happen. Calgary has the Burke connection too.

I don't see it happening for the Flames. They're not really trying to win now. They brought in Ramo and Berra and will see what they have there.

And they have Gillies, Brossoit and Ortio in the pipeline for the future.

I think Reimer might make more sense for the Oilers as long as the price isn't too high.

tvp2003 · 10-08-2013, 11:23 AM

Prediction: Karri Ramo will have more wins than James Reimer at the end of the season.

thymebalm · 10-08-2013, 11:46 AM

We are not dealing from a position of strength, that's for sure. If we shake up goaltending, it's either within the system, or a free agent signing. We shouldn't be shipping assets out of here when we only have 45 contracts.

flambers · 10-08-2013, 12:01 PM

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We shouldn't be shipping assets out of here when we only have 45 contracts.

45 Contracts is actually an area of strength IMO...

Gives the Flames Flexibility to make a move....

BigTuna · 10-08-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman

Please, no more Eastern media over-hyped Toronto players. Everyone's an all-star in T.O.

LOL. Sure buddy. Leaf players get more crap than anyone.

Who the hell overhypes Reimer? He gets a lot of crap for a guy who's posted above .920 save% in two of his first 3 NHL seasons.

BigTuna · 10-08-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I find it funny that after Ramo's 1 game and Berra's 0 games, some people think Reimer is a better option. It's way too early to make that call.

Reimer is a back-up quality goalie and I think it speaks volumes that even the lowly Leafs were chasing goalies the whole time that he was being counted on for more. For that matter, L.A. could have asked for either Scrivens or Reimer and preferred Scrivens.

Even if Ramo and Berra fail, Reimer is not the answer.

Never happened. Reimer wasn't an option for L.A. Do you honestly think Scrivens is better than Reimer?

James Reimer has actually had a better NHL career than Bernier. L.A wasn't going to get Reimer. They were looking for a quality back-up to Quick.

BigTuna · 10-08-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

If you're going to go after a goalie, why not contact the blues. They have Halak, Allen and Elliott. We could probably pry Elliott from them for a minimal amount just so they could open a spot for Allen to play regularly.

I know we mostly don't like Elliott, but he would be a good stop gap guy till Gillies is ready.

Elliott away from Hitchocock's system will be ugly.

CSharp · 10-08-2013, 09:26 PM

Cripes, let's hope not. No trades with the Leafs, please. What's wrong with having McD and Ramo in net? McD is actually great in net and if the Flames need to lose, just put Ramo in net. Flames currently don't need to downgrade in net any further with a Leafs goaltender. Flames also don't need to add more goalies in their system. They need big and faster players in defence and forwards.

GettinIggyWithIt · 10-08-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTuna

Never happened. Reimer wasn't an option for L.A. Do you honestly think Scrivens is better than Reimer?

James Reimer has actually had a better NHL career than Bernier. L.A wasn't going to get Reimer. They were looking for a quality back-up to Quick.

How do you figure? Aside from Reimer playing about 40 more games, I don't see how you could differentiate between either of their careers up to this point. Neither has proven much yet. Reimer had one good season followed by an average one followed by another good season. Meanwhile Bernier has put up very solid numbers playing on a strong team behind a very strong goalie while seeing limited playing time. It's really a toss up at this point as to who has had a better career in my opinion. Although I think the consensus is that Bernier is the better goalie and has more potential.

Agree that it was unlikely LA was looking to get Reimer though. I think they were looking for a quality back-up like you say.

DOOM · 10-08-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTuna

LOL. Sure buddy. Leaf players get more crap than anyone.

Who the hell overhypes Reimer? He gets a lot of crap for a guy who's posted above .920 save% in two of his first 3 NHL seasons.

You also called Bernier a franchise goalie in the OOT thread.

So you obviously have an unbiased few when it comes to Maple Leafs goaltenders.

Vinny01 · 10-08-2013, 10:12 PM

Flames will probably not change the goalie situation until after the season. We will see Berra and Ramo plenty before trading for Reimer

monkeyman · 10-08-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTuna

LOL. Sure buddy. Leaf players get more crap than anyone.

Who the hell overhypes Reimer? He gets a lot of crap for a guy who's posted above .920 save% in two of his first 3 NHL seasons.

Yeah, you never see TSN or CBC pumping up the Leafs or any of their players.

OzSome · 10-08-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

I would give all 3 of Berra Ramo and Ortio a shot this year if the former two are both disappointing, but we can not have a black hole on our roster if they all suck. This is more speculation for later in the season anyway.

It's the best season to see what can these guys do. Everybody especially the media predicted they are not going to make the playoffs and might be in last place anyways. Why even bother bringing in a Reimer or Bryzgalov who likely stay for a season or two? Then when those guys leave, you'll end up going back to Berra, Ramo or Ortio. It is a sink or swim for our young goalies this season. If they make mistakes let them learn from it and gain experience.

It's funny, Calgary fans been begging for a rebuild but when the season starts, they want so and so on this team because they don't think this so and so player or goalie is pretty raw and not good enough for this season. For me, i would stick to the goalies we have. If halfway through the season and the Flames are way far behind in the standing, I would even waive or trade Joey Mac and call up Reto Berra or Ortio to be the backup for the rest of the season.

Wastedyouth · 10-09-2013, 07:34 AM

You guys are criminally underrating Reimer. He is better than any goalie we have now. Far far farrrrrrrrr better.

flambers · 10-09-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

You guys are criminally underrating Reimer. He is better than any goalie we have now. Far far farrrrrrrrr better.

Maybe, but is he number 1 goalie? Personally I doubt it, he looks like a 1B type of a goalie. Reason why the Leafs traded for Bernier.

Flames are far better off, working with their 3 goalies this year to see how it turns out by the trade dead-line they should have a good idea.

Wastedyouth · 10-09-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flambers

Maybe, but is he number 1 goalie? Personally I doubt it, he looks like a 1B type of a goalie. Reason why the Leafs traded for Bernier.

Flames are far better off, working with their 3 goalies this year to see how it turns out by the trade dead-line they should have a good idea.

The leafs trading for Bernier is a mystery. Reimer is basically Bernier but with 40+ more game worth of experience to show he is more consistent. Trading for another, similar goalie, with a higher cap hit, is the reason the Leafs are in a terrible position cap wise.