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		|  09-12-2013, 05:09 PM | #1081 |  
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			At the very least there should be some interim signage improvements to that bow trail east to crowchild north turnaround ... thing.
 Every single time I take it people seem to get so confused. Seen a lot of near misses with people on bow not looking when they cross over to make the u-turn, and people taking the wrong lane back on to crowchild north and stopping to turn back around.
 
 It's such a ridiculous mess down there.
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		|  09-12-2013, 07:47 PM | #1082 |  
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			Transportation through / along the West village area might be impacted by the Flames plans to redevelop the land. 
 As for the u-turn to head north on Crowchild from Bow Trail, did they think making the u-turn permanent and getting rid of the traffic lights was a good thing? It's one of the worst major changeways in the country. Never understood why they did that.
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		|  09-12-2013, 07:56 PM | #1083 |  
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Might need a bylaw update there, Bunk.  The corridor goes from 4th Street East to 11th Street West. Just sayin'.    
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		|  09-12-2013, 07:58 PM | #1084 |  
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					Originally Posted by stevinder  Might need a bylaw update there, Bunk. The corridor goes from 4th Street East to 11th Street West. Just sayin'.   |  
ha! good call! didn't notice that.
		 
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		|  09-14-2013, 11:08 AM | #1085 |  
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			Do inner city developments pay for the capital costs of water treatment or is that cost absorbed by the city.
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		|  09-14-2013, 11:43 AM | #1086 |  
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We all drink Perrier and shower with Evian.
		 
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		|  09-14-2013, 11:44 AM | #1087 |  
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			Bunk, I suspect you won't have this, but you may surprise me. I've read that Calgary and Edmonton's new residential development is more than 80 per cent sprawl - in other words, communities growing outward, mostly low or medium density requiring new infrastructure, instead of infill. 
 Do you happen to have those numbers for both cities? This is a particular interest of mine.
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		|  09-14-2013, 11:47 AM | #1088 |  
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					Originally Posted by MoneyGuy  Bunk, I suspect you won't have this, but you may surprise me. I've read that Calgary and Edmonton's new residential development is more than 80 per cent sprawl - in other words, communities growing outward, mostly low or medium density requiring new infrastructure, instead of infill. 
 Do you happen to have those numbers for both cities? This is a particular interest of mine.
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I wish it was 80%! I think Calgary is ~95%, and only recently came under 100% (i.e. the inner city was depopulating).
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		|  09-14-2013, 12:02 PM | #1089 |  
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			It seems you have no idea what a sprawl really is.  Honestly.
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		|  09-14-2013, 12:04 PM | #1090 |  
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					Originally Posted by SebC  I wish it was 80%! I think Calgary is ~95%, and only recently came under 100% (i.e. the inner city was depopulating). |  
I said over  80% but suspect it's well into the 80s or maybe the 90s. I read that Edmonton's is 88% and was wondering what the true numbers are for both cities.
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		|  09-14-2013, 02:04 PM | #1091 |  
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					Originally Posted by SebC  I wish it was 80%! I think Calgary is ~95%, and only recently came under 100% (i.e. the inner city was depopulating). |  
If the demands there, keep building. Can't tell people where to live.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:13 PM | #1092 |  
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					Originally Posted by fotze  Who repaves the strip of street that is ripped up to change out the sewer service on an infill?  Is it a contractor or the city?  What if they do a terrible job and it is caving in or is like a ######ed speed bump. |  
Contractor who is licensed by the city, which is why it's stupid expensive for homeowners to do it. Our builder could have done it for less than 30% than what we paid. If the road is bad, those thieves should have to come back to fix their lousy job. 
 
Our road destroyers had to come back because even though they stole 30k from us for less than a days work, they forgot to turn the valve on. At least it made me feel good that they lost a small part of their obscene profit from us.
		 
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:17 PM | #1093 |  
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					Originally Posted by stampsx2  If the demands there, keep building. Can't tell people where to live. |  
You can, however, eliminate the portion of demand that is created by a subsidy and would not exist within an efficient market.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:19 PM | #1094 |  
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					Originally Posted by SebC  You can, however, eliminate the portion of demand that is created by a subsidy and would not exist within an efficient market. |  
And just how much is that?
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:26 PM | #1095 |  
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					Originally Posted by GGG  Do inner city developments pay for the capital costs of water treatment or is that cost absorbed by the city. |  
I'd like to know this also. SebC, with all your drum banging, do you have the answer to this? Also, do inner city developments pay for increased road usage by the now-denser community? I know you hate the fact that the city builds infrastructure outward, because it costs money to build and police and service. Are you factoring these things into your calculations for what inner city development costs?
 
I mean, if you increase the number of people in an area, you need more police. If there are more people flushing their toilets, you need bigger pipes. Who is paying for that? Is there a $7,000 fee on inner city developments that is not on suburban developments?
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:30 PM | #1096 |  
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					Originally Posted by 4X4  I mean, if you increase the number of people in an area, you need more police. If there are more people flushing their toilets, you need bigger pipes. Who is paying for that? Is there a $7,000 fee on inner city developments that is not on suburban developments? |  
Yes there is, our taxes.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:32 PM | #1097 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bigtime  Yes there is, our taxes. |  
Come on, now. Don't give me that crappy answer. I'm asking if new developments (infills) are paying this precious fee that Seb whines about incessantly.
 
You pay more taxes because your property is worth more.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:33 PM | #1098 |  
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			The taxes aren't specifically based on location though, its based on market value.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:35 PM | #1099 |  
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			I haven't built an infill so I can't answer that.
 But I'd still love to know why 168 condo dwellers in a highrise (call the average square footage 1100) pay the equivalent in taxes to a suburban home. Moving from that condo to our house was a minimal tax increase. That makes no sense to me.
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		|  09-14-2013, 03:40 PM | #1100 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bigtime  I haven't built an infill so I can't answer that.
 But I'd still love to know why 168 condo dwellers in a highrise (call the average square footage 1100) pay the equivalent in taxes to a suburban home. Moving from that condo to our house was a minimal tax increase. That makes no sense to me.
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MARKET VALUE ASSESSMENT.
 
Without the suburbs, your inner city property wouldn't be worth nearly as much.
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