Agreed. Not to mention there's just something off about TSN, but I can't put my finger on it. Even their playoff coverage feels weird, it seems like their rushing you through the experience or something.
Like how CBC tends to give you this big build up to the game, which makes you feel more into it somehow. They're so much better at capturing the excitement in the build-up in the arena. CBC has the buildup, then one of their amazing montages, then they let the viewer soak up the arena atmosphere as the teams take the ice.
I forget which game it was, very sure it was the finals, and maybe they did this every game and I just hadn't tuned in yet, but, they did a montage with the Black Keys song playing. It was absolutely amazing and I was gripping my armchair after that, completely stoked about the upcoming game. It seemed as the song got heavier the hitting etc in the montage got bigger and better. Anyways, I've never come close to getting a hockey woody like that from TSN.
I forget which game it was, very sure it was the finals, and maybe they did this every game and I just hadn't tuned in yet, but, they did a montage with the Black Keys song playing. It was absolutely amazing and I was gripping my armchair after that, completely stoked about the upcoming game. It seemed as the song got heavier the hitting etc in the montage got bigger and better. Anyways, I've never come close to getting a hockey woody like that from TSN.
Tax dollars pay for infrastructure in parts of the city and country that I never use, or subsidize medical procedures I will never use, but I don't bemoan the fact that I pay them. I actually get more value from CBC than I get from streets and street lights in, say, Lake Bonavista.
The argument that all tax money should only be spent on reducing the debt or on reducing suffering all over the world is shrill. Anything can be essential or non-essential depending on your perspective. It's part of life.
As well, the Canadian debt currently stands at 615 billion. Applying full CBC funding to that would reduce it by a whopping
.16%.
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Reason: I suck at math.
As well, the Canadian debt currently stands at 615 billion. Applying full CBC funding to that would reduce it by a whopping
.16%.
Each and every year.
Try this on for size: In recent years, the federal government has been running a deficit of about $25 billion per year. Eliminating the CBC subsidy would reduce that by 4%. Eliminating subsidies to private broadcasters at the same time would make it 8%.
In a world where cable and satellite TV make broadcasting capacity essentially unlimited, and where the Internet is rapidly making the whole concept of TV channels obsolete, a state-run TV channel is a luxury not worth buying with borrowed money.
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That is the key difference between the BBC and CBC.
BBC can keep talented British actors/writers/producers etc in Britian and have them work on projects for the BBC.
In Canada any of the talent is going to make the trip south of the border where they will get paid much more handsomely then any of CTV/CBC/Global etc are willing to pay.
This is exactly my point. If the CBC received the same level of public funding that the BBC does, then -- just like the UK -- we could afford to keep more of Canada's best creative talent here instead of having them move to the US for a bigger pay day. It's hypocritical to complain that we're spending too much on public broadcasting while simultaneously complaining that the content sucks.
That said, saying that Canada shouldn't have a public broadcaster at all is a fair opinion, even if it's not one that I personally share. What really grinds my gears, though, is when people say the CBC should be more like the BBC but they don't want to fund it accordingly.
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In a world where cable and satellite TV make broadcasting capacity essentially unlimited, and where the Internet is rapidly making the whole concept of TV channels obsolete, a state-run TV channel is a luxury not worth buying with borrowed money.
Couldn't agree more.
it's hard for some to understand the concept of government deficits while they are still living in their parents basement.
it's hard for some to understand the concept of government deficits while they are still living in their parents basement.
Can we knock it off with this silly and tired argument already? There are millions of Canadians who are employed and pay taxes who fully understand the concept of fiscal responsibility and government deficits, but they happen to have a different opinion about the appropriate amount of government spending and taxation than you do.
The "only unemployed losers who don't understand the value of a dollar support the CBC/vote for Nenshi/want the Peace Bridge/etc." line is fallacious and lame.
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This is exactly my point. If the CBC received the same level of public funding that the BBC does, then -- just like the UK -- we could afford to keep more of Canada's best creative talent here instead of having them move to the US for a bigger pay day. It's hypocritical to complain that we're spending too much on public broadcasting while simultaneously complaining that the content sucks.
That said, saying that Canada shouldn't have a public broadcaster at all is a fair opinion, even if it's not one that I personally share. What really grinds my gears, though, is when people say the CBC should be more like the BBC but they don't want to fund it accordingly.
Personally I could not possibly care less where our Canadian television talent goes. Many of our hockey players already leave to the states, why should I care where the actors, directors and producers go?
Try this on for size: In recent years, the federal government has been running a deficit of about $25 billion per year. Eliminating the CBC subsidy would reduce that by 4%. Eliminating subsidies to private broadcasters at the same time would make it 8%.
In a world where cable and satellite TV make broadcasting capacity essentially unlimited, and where the Internet is rapidly making the whole concept of TV channels obsolete, a state-run TV channel is a luxury not worth buying with borrowed money.
So the only thing that matters is dollars and cents? There's no intrinsic cultural value to having a state-run broadcaster? There aren't more inefficient, wasteful, government programs that lose more money, that bring less to the table, than the CBC?
I don't really dislike the TSN product, but I do not want my only sources of hockey to be CTV/TSN and Sportsnet.
HNIC makes money. The rest of its content is really not designed to be extremely profitable. Documentaries, news, a few scripted shows, the mandate of public broadcasting is not, has never been, and never really should be, to turn a profit. There are always ways you can make something more efficient. Thinking the solution would be 'just turn it off' is extremely shortsighted.
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Personally I could not possibly care less where our Canadian television talent goes. Many of our hockey players already leave to the states, why should I care where the actors, directors and producers go?
If you can't see the difference between what you're arguing, I think it's going to be difficult for you to accept almost any explanation.
I don't know if you missed this, but I said I don't care AND I gave a reason. That would be the major difference between our posts . What channel these people display their talent on is of no concern to me. I don't want Canadian content specifically because its Canadian so why should I shell out any cash for a state run channel I never watch outside of HNIC? CBC provides nothing I need if TSN gets the rights.
I don't know if you missed this, but I said I don't care AND I gave a reason. That would be the major difference between our posts . What channel these people display their talent on is of no concern to me. I don't want Canadian content specifically because its Canadian so why should I shell out any cash for a state run channel I never watch outside of HNIC? CBC provides nothing I need if TSN gets the rights.
That is one classy user name. I get the feeling you end up wearing the bag most of the time eh? :P
. What channel these people display their talent on is of no concern to me. I don't want Canadian content specifically because its Canadian so why should I shell out any cash for a state run channel I never watch outside of HNIC? CBC provides nothing I need if TSN gets the rights.
I get the feeling you end up wearing the bag most of the time eh? :P
