[Rumour] Iginla considering Kings, Pens, Rangers, or Canucks

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I think she's a little too old for modelling, plus my understanding is that Iggy and his wife were going through a divorce. Not confirmed, just what I've heard round town. In which case, her career will likely consist of travelling the world at her leisure until the end of her days.

Heard the same rumour. Signs in Vancouver, or, Edmonton to be close to his kids if rumour is fact.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Scooter

Heard the same rumour. Signs in Vancouver, or, Edmonton to be close to his kids if rumour is fact.

That's unfortunate if true about the divorce. Iggy seems to be a very devoted family man so I'm sure that he will want to be as close to his kids as possible.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Frankly, the Flames-Canucks rivalry thing is overblown, and largely confined to this board, as far as I can see. Talk to a sportswriter in Montreal or Detroit or LA and ask him about the great NHL rivalries. He'll mention Philly-Pittsburgh, Montreal-Boston, Pittsburgh-Washington, Toronto-Montreal, Chicago-St.Louis, Detroit-Colorado. Might even mention Calgary-Edmonton. But the Calgary-Vancouver thing is pretty short-lived. We're talking about what - one playoff series ten years ago? It's a big deal to some Calgary fans of a certain age - not coincidentally an age that's over-represented on this board. But it's not much of a thing otherwise.

Any sports writer that mentions Colorado-Detroit rivalry these days likely voted for Ovechkin on the LW.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by blender

Did you know that before the NHLPA got organized players used to retire broke, no pensions, nothing to show for their careers while owners raked it in?

Define "raked it in."

60 cents on the dollar kind of "raked it in" where kids in Winnipeg had to throw their piggy bank change to try and buy the team because the existing owner couldn't afford it and no one wanted to buy it because it was a money pit.

Quebec moved to Colorado "raked it in."

Calgary and Edmonton barely scraping by "raked it in."

Sure, there were some greatly profitable organizations, but in the same breath there are plenty of broke owners before the NHLPA got organized.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Yeah because making $5mill/year instead of $7mill would have been such hardship in our country. But we must "think of all our union brothers before me!" I mean Iginla would have to live in Temple or Pineridge in order to make ends meet with $5mil/year.

what garbage.

I don't understand how that is relevant. Owners set the market when they offer contracts. Players take what they can. It's simple, really.

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's no coincidence that the year he gets traded the Saddledome flooded. Lets face it we all should set aside a moment of silence every day to honour his greatness of entertaining Flames fans for all those years all while earning a paltry $80 million while at it. A man that loved Calgary so much he sold his house within weeks after being traded to the team of his dreams. He's a real hero.

I would like to see a "No Erik Estradas allowed" thread on Iggy. Your keyboard is stuck on repeat. I find this thread more painful than the "Iggy should have chose the Bruins" thread.

[blender]

Originally Posted by mikeecho

Define "raked it in."

60 cents on the dollar kind of "raked it in" where kids in Winnipeg had to throw their piggy bank change to try and buy the team because the existing owner couldn't afford it and no one wanted to buy it because it was a money pit.

Quebec moved to Colorado "raked it in."

Calgary and Edmonton barely scraping by "raked it in."

Sure, there were some greatly profitable organizations, but in the same breath there are plenty of broke owners before the NHLPA got organized.

True that not every organization is making money; even now it is obvious that unless you own one of a handful of teams you will likely lose money, and that is the reason for multiple lockouts. Owners can't control their spending, even under a cap (look at the buyouts for proof).
My point was that it doesn't seem fair to blame the players, who are all pro-union, or particularly to single out Iginla, who I don't believe is any more pro-union than anyone else.
Sounds more like some of the usual anti-union garbage that I'm used to hearing from time to time.

[mustache ride]

Originally Posted by mikeecho

Define "raked it in."

60 cents on the dollar kind of "raked it in" where kids in Winnipeg had to throw their piggy bank change to try and buy the team because the existing owner couldn't afford it and no one wanted to buy it because it was a money pit.

Quebec moved to Colorado "raked it in."

Calgary and Edmonton barely scraping by "raked it in."

Sure, there were some greatly profitable organizations, but in the same breath there are plenty of broke owners before the NHLPA got organized.

The time frame he is talking about is about thirty years before yours.

[Flash Walken]

Is it possible I've gone from a 'hater' to a 'white knight' in the span of about 6 months?

I'd have more respect for Iginla if he signed with a division rival like the Canucks. It would show he valued winning more than paychecks or go-through-the-motions hockey.

I don't give two wet sharts about what team he chooses, it has no bearing on me as a flames fan, excitedly looking forward to next year's Flames team.

Frankly, I hope he signs 1 or 2 year deals for the rest of his career, hopping from contending team to contending team, giving his all for the last shot at ultimate glory. That's much more admirable than signing some big long term deal with some crappy team that can afford to pay him all he wants and more. Sign for less than market at a team you think you could help push over the top. I hope he plays until his early to mid 40s, and I hope he does tours in a third of the league by the time. The ultimate hired gun.

It would be interesting to cross reference the 'thanks' from roof daddy's post with those who bought Iginla pens jerseys. I won't bother, though.

[Vinny01]

Of Iggy wants to be close to his family he should just tell the flames he wants to come back. Van and edm are not places to win a cup just like Calgary

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Of Iggy wants to be close to his family he should just tell the flames he wants to come back. Van and edm are not places to win a cup just like Calgary

Oh please no, that ship has rightfully sailed. To be honest I would rather see him a Canuck than back with the Flames. Many reasons why, but maybe that will finally break any nostalgia to him and set the next generation of players free.

[CSharp]

4th line duties on the Pens and a soft defence? Forget it, Bylsma's a joke. They're gonna be a contender once again, but come playoffs, they'll be bounced once again. Consider the Bruins this time. More likely than not, it's gonna be the Kings that he'll go to. But if he really really wants to win a Cup, go to the eastern conference team. No way a Western Conference team wins the cup 3 years in a row.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Oh please no, that ship has rightfully sailed. To be honest I would rather see him a Canuck than back with the Flames. Many reasons why, but maybe that will finally break any nostalgia to him and set the next generation of players free.

I beg to differ on that. He's better as a Flames any day than with any other team. He's still better than 100% of the roster that the Flames have at the moment.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It would be interesting to cross reference the 'thanks' from roof daddy's post with those who bought Iginla pens jerseys. I won't bother, though.

Why does that matter? Nice cheap shot. People buying his jersey and then being pissed at him for signing with a rival. No relation at all.

So sick of people taking shots at the guys who group bought Iginla jerseys.

[MolsonInBothHands]

Playing for the Canuck would be one thing. Winning a cup with them would be heartbreaking. Aside from that I have moved on quicker than I thought I would. I am more interested in what the Flames are up to instead.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by mustache ride

The time frame he is talking about is about thirty years before yours.

In the context of Iggy being a hard liner in the union, the timelines are pretty close

[expo2428]

The way Im viewing it is if Iginla signs with the Canucks thats fine by me. It wont change my view on the type of person he i, it wont change my feelings as him being the best player Ive got to see growing up, it wont change his "legacy" I guess you could say in mind.

If he signed on with the Canucks all it would do is make not cheer for him to win a Stanley Cup.I wouldnt depreciate him in any way whatsoever I just wouldnt be cheering for him at all. If Iginla signed with any other team other than a few other teams I dislike than I would be sitting here cheering for that team to win a cup (after the Calgary Flames of course)

Any signing Iginla does isn't going to change how I view one of the greater Flames of all-time. I just hope he signs with another team so I can cheer him on!

[blender]

Originally Posted by mikeecho

In the context of Iggy being a hard liner in the union, the timelines are pretty close

I am at a loss about Iginla as a union hard-liner. Maybe I missed something, but first I'd heard of it.
And yes, I was referring to the very early days of the sixties when Ted Lindsay fought for players rights to fair pay and pensions and other employment benefits.

[mustache ride]

Originally Posted by blender

I am at a loss about Iginla as a union hard-liner. Maybe I missed something, but first I'd heard of it.
And yes, I was referring to the very early days of the sixties when Ted Lindsay fought for players rights to fair pay and pensions and other employment benefits.

The poster you're responding to has no idea what he is talking about. He is referencing the creation of the union being linked to the 60 cent Canadian dollar to Iginla being a union hardliner.

[blender]

Originally Posted by mustache ride

The poster you're responding to has no idea what he is talking about. He is referencing the creation of the union being linked to the 60 cent Canadian dollar to Iginla being a union hardliner.

It's all about the timelines, really.